All I can say is I think this take oversells HHGG and undersells R&M Rick and Morty as a whole really isn't "Nothing matters, idiot" as a message, and the moments of cruel sadomasochistic nihilism are right there in HHGG too
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Replying to @arthur_affect
In particular, and I say this as someone with great affection for HHGG, I think you're overselling the original radio series as having much more of a grand plan behind it as opposed to being wacky cynical humor Adams was making up by the seat of his pants
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Replying to @arthur_affect
hhgttg never relied on constant gross out humour so its way better, hhgttg would never decide to spend 5 mins having dragons talking about fucking each other. r&m suffers from people thinking its smarter then it is becuase it had a science element and did a couple clever things
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Replying to @GraemePeacock @arthur_affect
early on. its got some geuinely good moments that they just seem hell bent on forgetting to carry on with, like the robot morty part and would rather swear and then fart. it relies to much on being all ‘fuck it i’m so smart’ to be even close to hhgttg.
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Replying to @GraemePeacock @arthur_affect
and i agree with Róisín that hhgttg has a lot more depth to it about well anything. it has an undercurrent of overall story/narritive/universe building that r&m just like ‘fuck it’ about and could never become a beloved 40yo piece of work.
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Replying to @GraemePeacock @arthur_affect
I think my feelings are bc I'm also a big fan of Rick and Morty because I do think it has moments of bring genuinely really funny and interesting. But a lot of the central philosophy of it is, intentionally or not, geared towards validating a bunch of dickheads.
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I just get so sick of Dan Harmon acting shocked when people idolise his anti hero. Like you make him outwit every adversary, he spends his time taking drugs and fucking beautiful women, but sometimes he says "I have depression" and yr surprised lonely internet boys idolise him?
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Hitchhikers guide doesn't have the same thing of people being dicks in their attempts to emulate Ford Prefect. Maybe it'd be different if it was made now but I'm not sure it would.
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Replying to @Rois_Kenny @arthur_affect
yeah. it is frustrating, its like this man is a dick and always wins, and your surprised dickheads think he’s good. i enjoy the show but i quickly went from ‘i love this’ to ‘its enjoyable’ it just seemed to get the worst fans
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Replying to @GraemePeacock @arthur_affect
i don’t think it would. it’d be like people emulating Ford buy making sure you where well prepped for the day, with the 4/5 main hhgttg charaters, there is no real dickheaded behaviour, no negative attitudes as a whole, even Zaphod is likeable even if self serving.
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Uh... No Zaphod is casually abusive to everyone he meets, especially Trillian, and everyone is casually abusive to Arthur, and that's what all the interpersonal humor among the original cast derives from
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