hhgttg never relied on constant gross out humour so its way better, hhgttg would never decide to spend 5 mins having dragons talking about fucking each other. r&m suffers from people thinking its smarter then it is becuase it had a science element and did a couple clever things
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Replying to @GraemePeacock @arthur_affect
early on. its got some geuinely good moments that they just seem hell bent on forgetting to carry on with, like the robot morty part and would rather swear and then fart. it relies to much on being all ‘fuck it i’m so smart’ to be even close to hhgttg.
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Replying to @GraemePeacock @arthur_affect
and i agree with Róisín that hhgttg has a lot more depth to it about well anything. it has an undercurrent of overall story/narritive/universe building that r&m just like ‘fuck it’ about and could never become a beloved 40yo piece of work.
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Replying to @GraemePeacock @arthur_affect
I think my feelings are bc I'm also a big fan of Rick and Morty because I do think it has moments of bring genuinely really funny and interesting. But a lot of the central philosophy of it is, intentionally or not, geared towards validating a bunch of dickheads.
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The Doctor Who influence is obvious so there's definitely going to be some Adams energy from Baker era which I think is what's being identified. To Roisin's point I think the closer analogue to HHG2G on US TV is The Good Place.
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The good place is the purest absurdist fiction I love it.
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yeah got a bit into it's own lore in recent seasons but i mostly like it! the idea of things being impossibly big yet somehow incredibly banal while contemplating existence without falling into self destructive despair is more on brand for HHG2G than R+M.
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Replying to @garfieldcatman @arthur_affect
i liked good place but i stopped after a few episodes of s3 it felt a bit lost. but it is enjoyable, and the genral tone, is ‘be nice’ and more things in general need to be ‘be nice’
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Replying to @GraemePeacock
I think if you read HHGG as having a message of "be nice" you are really reading back into it The tone of the original series isn't nice at all
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Replying to @arthur_affect @GraemePeacock
Like just as a summary of the difference here, The Good Place takes the destruction of Earth and all life on it as its worst case scenario that all our heroes struggle to stop HHGG starts with this event and milks humor from how nobody but Arthur cares
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You'll note that the film has this softened ending (loosely based on SLaTfatF) where the Earth Mk II is actually created and undoes everyone's death In the original series this specifically doesn't happen, the mice decide to just make something up and cancel the project
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I think Arther Chu yelling at me over this take haven't actually watched HHGTTG and just know the memes
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Replying to @GraemePeacock
Lol you're right, I've never read HHGG in my life, I totally don't basically have it memorized from rereading it over and over since I was ten
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