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Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Czhorat @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl

      Imo the other thing is that most cases of trolley problem aren't actually calculated decisions. In real life they're usually snap judgments (often by the one person who's gonna be sacrificed) or calculated military decisions where it's a choice of evils rather than ideals

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    2. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @Czhorat and

      Yeah - I do think that overall, the abstract utilitarian challenge makes it interesting, but it's not the answer but why they're different that matters the most.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @mssilverstein @loudpenitent and

      Interestingly the Wikipedia article on "Trolley Problem" does point out a controversial real life case that closely fits the original parable, even if no one died in the end

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      In 2003 there was a runaway freight train in LA that was heading toward a station where passenger trains stopped To reduce the risk of loss of life, since they couldn't stop the train they diverted it into a sparsely populated low income neighborhood (the town of Commerce)

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      They knew that the area was inhabited and that the train would likely derail and go into people's houses but decided this was a better option than a collision on the tracks Two people's houses were destroyed and thirteen people went to the hospital

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      One of the victims was a pregnant woman who very narrowly avoided being crushed by a collapsing ceiling This was already pretty bad PR for the company but that would've been worse

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      Interestingly the debate over the company's decisions here does reflect various classic "trolley problem" arguments Like the argument over whether people in a passenger train have "assumed the risks" of a train accident but people in nearby houses have not

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      One of the interesting things about empirical studies of the trolley problem is people instinctively care a lot about who's "already involved" in any moral situation

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      They react very differently if the one person was tied to the tracks same as the five than if you say that you're gonna derail the trolley and kill some random person in the yard of their house with no awareness of what's going on Even though this is indefensible

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      Presumably the one guy being tied to the tracks wasn't there consensually but once he's in the category of "people whose lives are threatened by trolleys" you're mentally more okay with him dying "Dragging a bystander into this" feels worse It's a clear sloppy heuristic we have

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and

      I really feel like this is why people have perverse kneejerk moral reactions, ones based on writing certain people off as already destined to suffer The disabled Uber passenger should accept discrimination because they're already used to it

      1:13 PM - 27 Jan 2020
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        1. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 27 Jan 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

          It's probably fairly similar conceptually to himpathy, actually.

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