You're missing the point, this is where the freshman philosophy class predictably brings up virtue ethics as a third option between deontology and consequentialism It's not that hanging out with transphobes is Wrong Just Wrong, it's that it signals what kind of person you are https://twitter.com/dylanmatt/status/1221826247757570048 …
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@transscribe brings up in your article, deciding that someone saying transphobic shit is no big deal is a very clear signal that someday you'll think compromising on trans rights is no big deal Regardless of what your website says right now2 replies 23 retweets 157 likesShow this thread -
This is what I hate about conservatives making "virtue signaling" into a slur Virtue signaling is VERY IMPORTANT Imperfect as it is, it matters a lot more than just asking you what your values are and expecting you to be honest
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You have to have skin in the fucking game Anyone can say they're an ally to trans people when talking directly to trans people and everyone does No one knows where you stand until they see you talking to transphobes Deciding whose friend you are because you can't be everyone's
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"What value would there be in Bernie telling off Joe Rogan and throwing away his votes" It would be proof that when he says he cares about trans people he MEANS IT It's a "costly signal", it's him personally giving up something as a sign of loyalty
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Sounds good. Except,its a sad truth that most people in US don't care about trans rights. Those that DO care very much are in a minority. And the choice at this point is between a candidate who would shoot transpeople in the streets if he could and a guy who is for their rights.
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And I am really,really sick of equating talking with liberal guy who supports 95% leftist policies with "the worst thing ever!" because you disagree with that 5%. And equaling talking with that guy and accepting promotion with allying with his base while excluding everybody els.
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Replying to @John_McDosh @arthur_affect
I know this is frickin' twitter and loudest, most extreme voices are heard the most and nuanced argument is all but impossible. But this is getting frickin' ridiculous. Acting like a candidate who got promoted by a podcaster suddenly invited transphobes to be his advisers,really?
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Replying to @John_McDosh @arthur_affect
What really happened: a guy who you agree with 99% was promoted on a podcast of a guy you agree on 95% of the issues. And 99% guy gave a shout out in return to 95% guy. And you all exploded on that 4% difference. And are still talking about it, a week later. Meanwhile...
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Replying to @John_McDosh @arthur_affect
a guy you agree on 2% of the issues is literally maintaining concentration camps for children, taking away LGBT+ rights, destroying healthcare and environment. And you agree you are being obnoxious about 4% disagreement. And because of that you are ready to let 2% guy win again.
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Your numbers are probably off, but you know what, who cares Let's say I am Why isn't that a problem for Bernie's messaging you should bring to his people instead of yelling at me about it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @John_McDosh
Seriously, this is demonstrating the whole thing I was saying about who gets treated as a customer vs an employee "You've got to reach out to Rogan's fans, persuade them, not just scold them and expect them to fall in line" Oh but you CAN scold me and expect me to fall in line
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Replying to @arthur_affect @John_McDosh
I'm old enough to remember when Bernie stans were upset about being told to support the lesser of two evils...
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