This is a really good post. I find it really tiring when Trek fans act as if its weird that people today wouldn't relate to a utopian future where the government and military are objectively benevolent https://abigailnussbaum.tumblr.com/post/190456082585/opinions-about-tiaras-ncfan-1-welp-the-rise/amp#click=https://t.co/Gnopscx4TX …
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"let us have Star Trek" i mean ok, but it'll last one season, because there really is zip to relate to in the utopian premise
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My country has been a propagandistic warmonger since *at least 2/3rds of my life ago* and really longer. The Federation is just not believable (and even its writers who are going for that fail frequently at the utopia and instead tell us it's okay for our heroes to do atrocities)
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Like, "our society is a post scarcity utopia* THE HEROES: enable conversion therapy, forcibly split apart beings that see this as death, deny medical aid to uncontacted worlds
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Star Wars has conventionally sold better than Trek and Trek tends to turn into Wars because the fact is having human antagonists and fallible protagonists is better storytelling
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And Gene Roddenberry, by all reports, pushed the "utopian" ideal of the Federation while he was assaulting women
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
I'm of decidedly two minds on this. I think "this heroic group are actually The Worst!" is much of the time cheap and mean spirited, and I don't inherently think dystopia has much to say. But neither does perfect utopia.
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That's why I prefer stories like The Dispossessed (the subtitle of which is "An Ambiguous Utopia") and the setting of
@Lancer_RPG, in which the "utopia" has serious flaws and internal conflicts, while also being a MUCH better society to live in than our own.1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @TellerGrim @loudpenitent and
(reposted it after proof-reading the original). Also, HBO's Watchmen qualifies as an "ambiguous utopia."
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The big difference between Lindelof and Geoff Johns is Lindelof understands if you MUST do a sequel and answer the big question "Did Ozymandias' plan work?" it's much more interesting to answer yes than no
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
God the ending of Doomsday Clock blew. I mean, the whole series is a joke (appropriate!) but that ending...
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