"Sure, YOU would vote against sliding deeper into fascism, because you're political gutter trash who'll sleep with fucking anyone for even the weakest hit of slightly alleviated institutional oppression. Don't hold my standards and decency against me."
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Like fuck off. At the end of the day, the reason why you're not willing to do whatever is deontologically necessary to make as many people's lives easier as is possible is because you think you're a better person than the rest of us who've sold our souls and have no convictions
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(By definition you're talking about consequentialism over deontology here, if you're using the philosophy definition of the term)
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I mean it makes sense in the simplest meaning of the term, the term "deontology" just means "knowledge of duty" ("deon" is "duty" in Greek) So in the dictionary definition of the term consequentialism is also a duty, to do things that have positive consequences
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But the term "deontology" was invented (by consequentialists) to describe the opposite of consequentialism, i.e. duty as something that exists as an objective universal law
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Voting is a pretty good example to talk about these ethical problems actually because most people's ideas of the ethics of voting rests in this uneasy middle ground between deontology and consequentialism
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There's the Kantian thing about executing the last criminal in the jails while the comet comes for us, which I think about a lot.
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I have not heard about this one but it sounds like a hell of a thing...
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That might be my professor's gloss on it only; Kant wouldn't have talked about incoming comets, and it presumes that we're keeping capital punishment. Still, you get the point.
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Right, it's kind of a weird example to use because most modern liberal audiences' objection to it would be the idea you have a duty to execute murderers at all
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Or that executing people is an inherent duty, that it's fundamentally repugnant to let guilty people enjoy life, as opposed to a consequentialist decision where we regretfully put people to death because they're not safe to be around
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Yeah - it has a certain pop to it, though. And there's not much else you can do in terms of punishment once the thing is past the asteroid belt.
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