Like fuck off. At the end of the day, the reason why you're not willing to do whatever is deontologically necessary to make as many people's lives easier as is possible is because you think you're a better person than the rest of us who've sold our souls and have no convictions
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
(By definition you're talking about consequentialism over deontology here, if you're using the philosophy definition of the term)
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I mean it makes sense in the simplest meaning of the term, the term "deontology" just means "knowledge of duty" ("deon" is "duty" in Greek) So in the dictionary definition of the term consequentialism is also a duty, to do things that have positive consequences
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But the term "deontology" was invented (by consequentialists) to describe the opposite of consequentialism, i.e. duty as something that exists as an objective universal law
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
Voting is a pretty good example to talk about these ethical problems actually because most people's ideas of the ethics of voting rests in this uneasy middle ground between deontology and consequentialism
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In the most literal form of consequentialism, you shouldn't vote at all, because it doesn't matter Unless the election is literally decided by one vote your vote is of no benefit to anyone
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
The only reason to vote at all is because of the Kantian categorical imperative, which is usually seen as a deontological view of ethics "Even if it doesn't matter if I personally do it, I should act in the way I expect everyone else in the world to act"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
Do you mean that out of ALL ethical systems, only deontology gives a compelling reason to vote? Because it seems there's a fairly straightfoward case, or cases, for it under any variety of virtue ethics.
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I'm not really a huge fan of virtue ethics and so don't spend that much time thinking about the distinction between virtue ethics and deontology
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I get it as a pragmatic thing - it's what you do because in real life you don't have years to debate every decision you make in committee before you do it
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But there's a difference between saying "The Trolley Problem is an unrealistic problem" and "The dilemma the TP is about just doesn't exist" I mean, give me the answer then If Biden gets the nomination should I vote for him or not What kind of a person would it make me
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Yeah - I mean, at some point, I think virtue ethics can kind of break down, especially as it gets more specific. But I think it's a starting point for a lot of things.
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