I never thought Star Wars was primarily about redemption. It's always been the kind of epic, like superhero stories and also ancient myths, where people are so larger than life that they can be extremely bad and extremely good. This is why Ben doesn't really get a"redemption arc"https://twitter.com/BadassCharlene/status/1216269164303638530 …
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The point isn't to teach us to follow the code of the Jedi; everyone who worked on the series pretty much went with some version of "the Jedi failed, you don't want to be one." The Emperor is never a character who changes or grows, so he's not a candidate for redemption
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The original six movies (and Clone Wars) are an epic about a great hero who has a family who also become great heroes, and they have to take him down. The sequel trilogy is just more about that family and the conflicts they get into
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Anakin's "redemption" is not all that narratively different from Hector's last stand, it's just there to add to the epic drama
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Ben switching sides at the end without really doing anything to atone except indicate he regrets killing his dad is something I've seen a lot of people complain about, but it's totally in line with that sort of epic. And, as I said, with superheroes
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Also, no version of Star Wars asserts that it's the Jedi way to offer everyone redemption at the cost of lives of others; that's just a misconception from how they keep writing the Emperor, who lest we forget is a master gaslighter.
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Anakin was supposed to kill Palpatine according to Lucas, first in Revenge when he failed, then in Return when he succeeded. I'm pretty sure Abrams intends for Rey killing Palpatine (again) to be good, and there was no ambiguity about whether killing Snoke was good
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Obi-Wan doesn't try to Steven Universe Maul in TPM (arguably he does in Rebels, but that's a pretty complex narrative and again not really about redemption so much as shared trauma)
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In fact, only three people have ever done the Steven Universe maneuver in Star Wars: Luke, Han, and Rey. And Rey's the only one who wasn't doing it because it was an immediate family member
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
As fun as it is to dunk on Steven Universe the so called "Steven Maneuver" doesn't happen that often on the show either, they just had the misfortune to do a really rushed ending where the whole series got wrapped up that way
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Of the major named bad guys on the show, Lapis didn't really get talked down by empathy, Steven offered her a straight up trade (heal her Gem and give the ocean back) Peridot gets defeated by force and only starts to change *after* being taken as a helpless prisoner
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
Jasper is only ever beaten by force and never actually stops hating Steven, even in Steven Universe Future The Rubies are also defeated by force and never come around Aquamarine is never actually defeated Bismuth is defeated by force and only comes around after the fact
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
We mainly have two very prominent examples of really powerful boss battles where they're "defeated by empathy", the Cluster and the Diamonds, where they intentionally set it up so they're so powerful they couldn't possibly be defeated by force
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