So, I had less problem with that in Wrath of Khan than I do with TRoS. Because in the movie, people either already know about him from their history books, or they react as if it's any other name for a dangerous person. Rey responds as if she's known that name all her life.
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Replying to @chton @Plutoburns and
I feel that's almost the opposite, Rey is much more likely to know a major historical figure from 30 years ago than Kirk is from 300.
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Replying to @roryleahy @Plutoburns and
I agree she has ways of knowing Palps by the time she meets him, but I'd disagree on it being more likely she knows him than Kirk knowing Khan. Record keeping in Star Trek is a lot stricter, and Kirk is academy-educated and grew up in wealth.
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Replying to @chton @roryleahy and
The whole history of the planet she lives on was determined by the Civil War between the Rebels and the Empire, and the Empire was a despotic government completely centered on Palpatine
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chton and
It would be extremely weird for her to have no idea who he was when she lives in the shadow of an Imperial Star Destroyer and her whole living is scavenging Imperial tech
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chton and
Really the issue here is the reverse - the AUDIENCE is much less familiar with the name "Palpatine" based on the onscreen content of the movies than the characters logically should be The name isn't spoken at all in the OT, because Lucas irl hadn't settled on the details
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chton and
IIRC it's in the novelization of the original SW, the one he actually wrote, which I had as a kid. It's in a short prologue page that sets the stage (also indicates he was a weak politician influenced by corrupt advisors, so definitely before he hashed the mastermind stuff out)
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Replying to @Sarcasmorator @arthur_affect and
Yeah was gonna say I grew up in the 80s and 90s knowing the Emperor's name was Palpatine long before the prequels but that was because I was an ubernerd
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Replying to @roryleahy @arthur_affect and
I don't remember there being anything about the EMPEROR being a Sith Lord until the prequel movies though, even once I knew that Vader was. There was no rule of two pre-1999. The emperor was an evil force user who corrupted Vader; Vader was the Sith lord
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Replying to @Sarcasmorator @arthur_affect and
Yes all of that is true. The word "Sith" was never spoken in the OT but "Dark Lord of the Sith" was used throughout supplementary material without defining it. Still, Return of the Jedi makes it clear the Emperor also used the Dark Side of the Force.
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Lucas established that in the first movie, Motti says "You and the Emperor's sad devotion to that ancient religion"
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