Really you could argue "cautionary tale" science fiction has always dominated the genre in one firm or another and is generally more influential than "gee whiz wouldn't it be cool" science fiction
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I feel the idea of it is also influential in itself; as in, people will happily assume anything that makes them uncomfortable is also Cautionary Tale Fiction
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Keep running into people going “Ah, obviously these characters are suffering their deserved comeuppance” and having to squint and go “…I mean they didn’t get rescued from the plot by the hand of Good and I like that in a chain of cause and effect but what.”
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People who feel comfortable with cautionary tales are disproportionately likely to be willing and happy to build plots around what they think they deserve and assume everyone else does too, therefore sufficient conflict or misfortune proves moral iniquity, I guess?
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Yeah I remember John Carpenter actually getting upset about the whole Final Girl concept and saying he never intended Halloween to be a story about teenagers being "punished for having sex"
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Standard “conservatism fights dirty” problem I guess People with a commitment to the idea of a morally prescriptive universe with a bow on it will be willing and able to believe they’re looking at it, because that’s what they think a universe means
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So “No, this is not how this story goes, there is an absence of that” doesn’t end up legible when embedded in the narrative and parses as nonsensical when said
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“But what’s the moral” “There isn’t one, I wanted to look at something I find neat” “But it’s a story, so there’s a moral. Why won’t you take responsibility for that moral” It’s what the accurate statement ‘everything is political’ gets warped into in order to bludgeon people
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“All stories teach people something, what is this that you think is worth teaching” And often either “Why do you hate these characters?” or “Yesss I’m glad you hate the right characters” etc. (But they don’t! They show people something! It’s different!)
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Yeah, which is why, as a fan of Black Mirror, I think it sometimes gets strawmanned as being more anti-tech than it really is (although it is that)
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That's the meta behind the Black Museum episode and all ("This museum is supposed to be educational but it's really just torture porn")
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"This technology doesn't even make sense, it's like whoever invented it just wanted to torture people"
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