Palps: "I embody all the Sith before me" Rey: "Who? what's a sith? Who are you? How do I even know you're actually my family?" *sticks a lightsaber through his face*
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Replying to @chton @BootlegGirl and
Classic JJ Abrams then. "I am KHAN." "Nice to meet you, Khan." Seriously, that name means nothing in the context of that story.
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Replying to @BetaDecayPlus @BootlegGirl and
But it means something to the AUDIENCE and as we know evoking paratext emotion is more important than narrative
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Replying to @Plutoburns @BetaDecayPlus and
So, I had less problem with that in Wrath of Khan than I do with TRoS. Because in the movie, people either already know about him from their history books, or they react as if it's any other name for a dangerous person. Rey responds as if she's known that name all her life.
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Replying to @chton @Plutoburns and
I feel that's almost the opposite, Rey is much more likely to know a major historical figure from 30 years ago than Kirk is from 300.
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Replying to @roryleahy @Plutoburns and
I agree she has ways of knowing Palps by the time she meets him, but I'd disagree on it being more likely she knows him than Kirk knowing Khan. Record keeping in Star Trek is a lot stricter, and Kirk is academy-educated and grew up in wealth.
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Replying to @chton @roryleahy and
The whole history of the planet she lives on was determined by the Civil War between the Rebels and the Empire, and the Empire was a despotic government completely centered on Palpatine
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chton and
It would be extremely weird for her to have no idea who he was when she lives in the shadow of an Imperial Star Destroyer and her whole living is scavenging Imperial tech
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chton and
Really the issue here is the reverse - the AUDIENCE is much less familiar with the name "Palpatine" based on the onscreen content of the movies than the characters logically should be The name isn't spoken at all in the OT, because Lucas irl hadn't settled on the details
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chton and
All the way up until the release of TPM the hardcore movies-only fandom disagreed strongly with the EU fandom over whether the Emperor's name actually was "Palpatine" or whether it was unknown, possibly unknown in-universe
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The prequels making it clear that, yes, Palpatine was just his personal name and he ruled openly under it without there being any big secret was technically a retcon in the eyes of said movies-only fans
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Replying to @arthur_affect @chton and
since it was in Lucas's own novelization of the movie I definitely don't consider it a retcon
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Replying to @Sarcasmorator @arthur_affect and
And it's not that weird that people weren't calling him by the name he had as a Republic Senator - I was reading that in Japan it's considered rude even in casual conversation to refer to the reigning Emperor by his given name, or even most of the formal titles he has
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