Based on an AITA post I just saw, help me out a second, as an intersex woman who will never conceive. Is there an idea taken as axiomatic that a person who willfully remains absent from the occasion of their partner giving birth is committing an unspeakable moral dereliction?
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
It's interesting that this is a social norm that changed really fast, at the beginning of the 20th century fathers being in the delivery room to watch the birth was banned, at the end of the 20th century it was mandatory
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
That said it was still the norm for the father to be present, just not in the same room The 101 Dalmatians movie treats the dad nervously pacing and chain smoking because he has no idea what's going on in there as a familiar comic cliché
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
But anyway yeah from a historical standpoint it's interesting It was considered a major advance of second-wave feminism to establish that childbirth wasn't a "woman thing" and the husband was not only capable of being but obligated to be the mom's primary support at the time
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
It's something I've been thinking about watching T*RFs bang on about "sex-based rights" and "woman-only spaces", that if they won they'd almost certainly reverse this feminist gain and send us back to midwifery being a women-only profession and men not being allowed in the ward
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The thing being it feels like we're already kind of giving way on that, like we still think it's mandatory for the husband to be present at birth but we've got the whole "doula" thing now because of the perception husbands have done a lousy job of supporting pregnant women
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