Yeah, like, ok, so Death is some personified force, it doesn't mean mortals aren't going to be annoyed with her if she's deliberately out there killing humans. The Endless are concepts, but humans rebel against nature all the time
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Right, I mean, that's what the series is about, to a significant extent. And the limits on our ability to do that.
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Yeah like part of the deal is that as shitty as Dream is, his two younger siblings Despair and Desire are like way, way more obviously evil (in the context of the narrative) and nothing ever comes of it for them
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Desire's never been killed before, which is why they're so arrogant Some hero in the prehistoric dawn of time succeeded in killing Despair It didn't turn out well for him
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I mean there's a special sort of complacency to such narratives though, right?
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Somewhat. I don't think the narrative implies that no resistance or opposition is possible, or that it's meaningless, or that it's counterproductive. But they do tend to suggest that you might not win.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @loudpenitent and
Daniel’s existence is *some*one’s win, if you want the existence of the universe to be incompatible with Morpheus as he is then you got it It’s just that the kind of change-without-death that’s an option for humans isn’t on the table here and never was
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @mssilverstein and
The big thing about it is it's not clear whose win it is, but it was some kind of necessary step in the evolution of humanity Notably, Lyta Hall doesn't actually get her son back
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
I feel like that comes back to the foreseeable (extradiegetic) discourse “The character was ultimately incompatible with the world as it is, that sounds like a not-endorsement” “But I had to look at him when I read the book”
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @mssilverstein and
I mean my interpretation of what happened there is that the original idea of Dream was antithetical to real human action and Daniel represents a different "point of view"
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I think what really got me about why Morpheus is such an asshole - indeed, is anti-humanist on a deep level - is Lucien's library, which only contains books that have NEVER been written
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If a book actually makes it through the process of being written, and read, it vanishes from the shelves Anything that really happens in the real world, anytime someone makes the effort to actually do something, it's lost to Dream's realm
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Yeah! It’s a profoundly inhuman set of actions/functions/ways of being to be embodying while still allowing/requiring narrative
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