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Voultar‏ @Voultar Mar 25

I was reading a thread the other day concerning MiSter. Evidently, the buildroot hasn't been relinquished to the public. But, shouldn't that be dispersed openly, too? The cores have to be, of course. But why not the buildroot? Forgive my ignorance, just trying to understand.

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Bender‏ @Bender65816 Mar 25

Replying to @Voultar

CentOS was a project that recreated the entire RedHat Ent Linux buildroot since RHEL didn’t give it away. The linux distro in the MiSTer is tiny by comparison, and we can already compile binaries for it. Its not a very high hurdle. Won’t get far with a fork if this is the blocker

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Arcade Projects‏ @arcade_projects Mar 25

Replying to @Bender65816 @Voultar

I don't seem to recall CentOS history being like that at all re: "since RHEL didn’t give it away" https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2004-May/000153.html … it was always a proper fork. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS pic.twitter.com/BdJBFLKEgu

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Bender‏ @Bender65816 Mar 25

Replying to @arcade_projects

CentOS releases lagged RHEL releases because in each case the CentOS team had to create a working buildroot for the RHEL source, they didn’t get that from RedHat. Their fork had to be binary compat, so it wasn’t easy. For mister you’re talking about much less work.

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Marcus/Boogermann‏ @marcusjordan Mar 25

Replying to @Bender65816 @arcade_projects

Buildroot (tool) != rootfs(filesystem). CentOS lagged RHEL because it relied on it's community to patch and test the packages before pushing to the package manager repo. A RHEL license would get you the professional support for that

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Arcade Projects‏ @arcade_projects Mar 25

Replying to @marcusjordan @Bender65816

I love how assertive he tried to sound with his claim. Lol. Like nah bro, that isn’t a thing. Nor was it ever.

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Marcus/Boogermann‏ @marcusjordan Mar 25

Replying to @arcade_projects @Bender65816

It circle backs to the Open Source LARPing. It's the principle of FOSS people don't get it. Is like ExxonMobil claiming that they're a clean energy company just because they have a few wind turbines and solar panels.

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Bender‏ @Bender65816 Mar 25

Replying to @marcusjordan @arcade_projects

I’m not sure what your ultimate goal is but for the record I think forks are inevitable and the buildroot will not be an obstacle for long. Its a small embedded linux distro, not that hard to make same or similar with more support for stuff like CUPS if that’s what you want

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Arcade Projects‏ @arcade_projects Mar 25

Replying to @Bender65816 @marcusjordan

The ultimate goal is for the project to be GPL compliant. End of story. The length of time that is an obstacle is completely beside the actual point that you seem to miss. #MiSTerFPGA as a project is NOT GPL compliant for a number of reasons, all the while touting "Open Source"pic.twitter.com/jV7nSBuUCA

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Bender‏ @Bender65816 Mar 25

Replying to @arcade_projects @marcusjordan

I’m only talking about the potential difficulty of build environments for complex projects. I don’t think they have to ship anything to let anyone be able to build (that could be a lot!) Not familiar with minimig licensing, could be a different issue

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Arcade Projects‏ @arcade_projects Mar 25

Replying to @Bender65816 @marcusjordan

" I don’t think they have to ship anything to let anyone be able to build " you don't "THINK" is the problem, go read the GPL words I have pasted over and over and over, then "think" a bit before typing further. "Not familiar with minimig licensing" for fuck sake man walk away.

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