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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral Apr 26

    Aral Balkan Retweeted Ranking Digital Rights

    Apple makes its money selling products to people. Google makes its money selling people to people. Your report puts Google #1 in privacy. Your report is either absolutely clueless or institutionally corrupt. (You’re “based at” @newamerica, which gets millions from Google.)https://twitter.com/rankingrights/status/989557222656049152 …

    Aral Balkan added,

    Ranking Digital Rights @rankingrights
    @Apple improved more than any other company in the #RankingRights Index, but still lagged behind most of its U.S. peers due to its failure to disclose policies affecting users’ freedom of expression. Read more: https://rankingdigitalrights.org/index2018/companies/apple …
    10:56 AM - 26 Apr 2018
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      2. c i r o‏ @cirofaienza Apr 26
        Replying to @aral @NewAmerica

        I think we can take Google to task without lionizing the classist company that started the war against general purpose computing.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Apr 26
        Replying to @cirofaienza @NewAmerica

        Aral Balkan Retweeted Aral Balkan

        Agree. Not lionising; merely pointing out differences in business models (see thread: https://twitter.com/aral/status/989598241825214465 …) and https://ar.al/notes/apple-vs-google-on-privacy-a-tale-of-absolute-competitive-advantage/ … Also see their behaviour when it’s not a competitive advantage (eg., in China). No multibillion-dollar company is your friend :)

        Aral Balkan added,

        Aral Balkan @aral
        Replying to @cogment @NewAmerica
        You’re right on all counts. And Apple’s business model is still 180 degrees removed from Google’s when it comes to privacy. So all those things are true. (See https://ar.al/notes/apple-vs-google-on-privacy-a-tale-of-absolute-competitive-advantage/ …)
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      2. cogs + diss‏ @cogment Apr 26
        Replying to @aral @NewAmerica

        Apple uses proprietary software to restrict users freedom to run any program they wish. Any program run on iOS devices has to be approved by Apple. https://stallman.org/apple.html 

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      3. cogs + diss‏ @cogment Apr 26
        Replying to @cogment @aral @NewAmerica

        Apple licenses their products to their users they don’t sell them. This is made clear by Apple’s attempts to restrict the user’s ability to repair their products without first going through Apple.

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      4. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Apr 26
        Replying to @cogment @NewAmerica

        You’re right on all counts. And Apple’s business model is still 180 degrees removed from Google’s when it comes to privacy. So all those things are true. (See https://ar.al/notes/apple-vs-google-on-privacy-a-tale-of-absolute-competitive-advantage/ …)

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      1. vakibs‏ @vakibs Apr 26
        Replying to @aral @NewAmerica

        This is institutionalized bias that is typical of many imperial media organisations and rating organisations..

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      1. Camilo Rodríguez‏ @CamiloGuezRodri Apr 26
        Replying to @aral @NewAmerica

        It's productive to look at criteria, i.e., in what sense & respect Google comes out on top. How study frames privacy & what the indicators used show. If the study is misleading - & I'm not saying it isn't - we have to analyze the terms that misconstrue the reality it represents.

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      1. Free Ukraine  🇺🇦‏ @Ukrainolution Apr 26
        Replying to @aral @IlvesToomas @NewAmerica

        The irony is that part of taking people’s privacy seriously is not arbitrary reporting internal policies to anyone that asks. Also, Apple has very few public facing services where people can openly express themselves to begin with. Their model is primarily private communications.

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