If you’re an EU citizen, you have the legal right to (a) ask for a copy of your data (b) tell Facebook to delete your account. But deleting things on Facebook doesn’t remove information from your profile. Data is Facebook’s primary asset, they don’t willingly destroy it.https://twitter.com/aral/status/976160596617031680 …
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Also GDPR, if effectively enforced, will impact this in the EU. (HT
@Si for the reminder)https://twitter.com/aral/status/976161822574247937 …Show this thread
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Also, it will probably flag that you’re worried about your privacy and need to be reassured. The privacy dinosaur might start making more frequent visits. You’ll probably get added to a targeting group for “people who care about privacy” and start seeing related products in ads.https://twitter.com/aral/status/976160596617031680 …
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what about deactivating? i assume the data is all still there - but do you know if they still track through previously connected applications?
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They even track people who’ve never joined Facebook (look up shadow profiles).
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this is insane
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Been sayin’ :)
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The claim that deletion is just a flag directly contradicts Facebook's terms of service, which states that they lose their IP license to the content upon deletion, and that it is retained for only a short period of time pending actual deletion. What is the basis for your claim?
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/oct/20/facebook-fine-holding-data-deleted … (If you want to see the receipts, check out the documentary Terms and Conditions May Apply, where they go through the actual documents showing the flags.)
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(Of course, ideally, we should be pushing for algorithmic transparency to see exactly how they’re processing data and what they’re doing with it at any given moment. Until then, we only have these little glimpses to go by and not much to go on to enforce regulations.)
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At first blush, what's described in the article sounds consistent with their ToS: "This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it."
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Likely that they have implemented shared content, like messages, as single items in a db, associated with two users the message is between—and so unless both have deleted the message, can't delete it from their database. They can only mark that it shouldn't be shown to one user.
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If a user untags themselves from a photo, most likely it was somebody else's photo. In that case, recording the untagging would actually be necessary to prevent re-tagging of the photo.
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So the examples cited sound consistent with both the ToS, and what would be required for the system to behave reasonably. It might disappoint users to find they cannot erase all their digital fingerprints from FB, but that's really no different from any other sharing technology.
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The only thing you CAN do, is pollute your data.
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Yep, I couldn’t fit it into the first tweet but mentioned it in the follow up. That _should_ work. I have no idea what enforcement/audits, if any, are carried out in practice.
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Yes i can imagine a large company like FB would be very good at obfuscating if it wanted to and as you allude to, exactly who would follow it up :/
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http://Ps.You did rain on my parade!:)
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Starting May 25th, “delete” should mean “delete” for EU citizens
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