“Good folks should keep working at Facebook and Google as they regulate their worst abuses” is as silly an argument as “vegans should work at factory farms” and “doctors should work for Philip Morris”. No, you legitimise and enable the abuses of those companies. You’re complicit.
-
-
Same goes for users too.
-
“Users” (people who use these services) are the victims here, so let’s not to blame them. For the most part, surveillance-based products are all that exist; their only choice is who gets to profile them – Google, FB, Yahoo, … – or to disconnect. We need ethical alternatives.
-
Yes, we are victims, but we are also citizens, and as such have some power. We choose which services to use and engage with. We choose whether we support consumer rights groups, or vote for politicians that support those rights. We have more power than we think.
-
Indeed we do. If we want to make use of those rights: 1. We must combat institutional corruption and remove the influence of corporate finance in public policy-making 2. Overhaul the democratic system so our options aren’t far right or neoliberals; gain agency over issues…
End of conversation
New conversation -
-
-
they won't find anyone to work for six figure incomes? Hmm.
-
That was my first thought too. But I realised later Eric wasn’t being naïve, just honest if a tad imprecise: he meant the best of the best. They don’t need just anyone; they need the top minds. If the top minds leave for ethical reasons, they have a major problem on their hands.
-
I suppose not every top mind would feel working at Google or Facebook is a lure they can not deny. I find it hard to believe replacements couldn't be found, though.
-
OTOH, there's this https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/16/silicon-valley-internal-work-spying-surveillance-leakers … which is bound to be a downer
End of conversation
New conversation -
-
-
The Cambridge Analytica reporting has been interesting on this point that they couldn't really find any Americans to work there (even just as ghost workers for FEC purposes), and eventually the Brits were also like, these candidates suck too fucking much, bye
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
-
-
I believe there’s a market for subscription based alternatives to gmail, Facebook and Twitter, where the customers data is not the product
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
-
-
Right. Leaving regulating to regulators is exactly what many are missing these days. I'm surprised nobody seems to have said this (AFAIK now, of course) wrt the Cambridge Analytica block:http://stop.zona-m.net/2018/03/this-is-all-you-need-to-know-about-cambridge-analytica/ …
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.