iCloud encryption keys can’t unlock iPhones, they can’t decrypt FaceTime calls or iMessage chats, and they certainly can’t decrypt Signal or ProtonMail. It’s a good thing you can still buy an iPhone in China. The alternative is much worse!
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@joeldrapper Ah, so all that trouble for no gain whatsoever for the Chinese government? OK. Quite a PR blow to take for Apple for something so entirely devoid of function. I guess they must enjoy shooting themselves in the foot with a rocket launcher for no apparent reason :) -
No, they gained the ability to access citizens’ iCloud data under their own legal process. Ideally, Apple should have either moved the encryption keys onto people’s own devices, or stop offering iCloud altogether in China.
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Option A would benefit *everyone* and I sure hope they’re working on it.
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E2EE for permanent storage like Files, Photos, etc. is very, *very* hard. They don’t want to get it wrong and have people lose access to their data. They’ve added E2EE to iMessages and FaceTime, and talked about the work they’re doing to bring it to other services.
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Indeed. And one can only assume that once they’ve implemented it, they’ll turn it on in China too. I’m not going to hold my breath on that one but I’ll be the first to gladly eat my words and praise them wholeheartedly if they do. It’s never fun being right on things like this.
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the social chameleon ;)
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It would be better if apple took a more proactive stance & just didn't sell there on HR grounds. But that would be like expecting cosmetic manufacturers not to sell there on animal welfare grounds & that's never gonna happen.
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