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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral Feb 8

    Aral Balkan Retweeted ndread

    We’ll cure hunger tomorrow. Today, flamethrowers and luxury cars in space.https://twitter.com/leftoperating/status/961384162606301184 …

    Aral Balkan added,

    ndread @leftoperating
    Replying to @aral
    his ability to do good in the world is contingent on the profitability of his companies in a capitalist system. if he spent all his money on feeding the hungry, he would run out in a day, and hunger would return tomorrow.
    4:21 AM - 8 Feb 2018
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      2. Doney den Ouden‏ @doney Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        Doney den Ouden Retweeted Aral Balkan

        This position is uncharacteristically short-sighted, @aral 🤔https://twitter.com/aral/status/961575611339886592 …

        Doney den Ouden added,

        Aral Balkan @aral
        We’ll cure hunger tomorrow. Today, flamethrowers and luxury cars in space. https://twitter.com/leftoperating/status/961384162606301184 …
        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Feb 8
        Replying to @doney

        My position that a handful of billionaires aren’t actually working for the betterment of society for everyone. I’ll stick by it.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Doney den Ouden‏ @doney Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        That’s absolutely true, but I believe Elon truly does, just on an unorthodox scale. Tesla works to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy. SpaceX works to make spaceflight more affordable, and literally back up humanity for an extinction level event.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Doney den Ouden‏ @doney Feb 8
        Replying to @doney @aral

        Then there’s OpenAI working towards safe AI and Neuralink working on brain-machine interfaces in the medical field. He isn’t doing this for shits and giggles, and throwing money at issues like hunger has never solved them.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Feb 8
        Replying to @doney

        OpenAI has Peter Thiel on it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Doney den Ouden‏ @doney Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        Nobody is 100% bad, right?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Feb 8
        Replying to @doney

        The question is how much of your life are you willing to waste defending the ones that are 99% bad? And could that energy not be used for something more beneficial in general?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Doney den Ouden‏ @doney Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        I do know that Elon isn’t 99% bad. I barely know anything about Peter Thiel (other than that he co-founded PayPal and supports Trump) so I can’t form a real opinion. Any recommended reads?

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      2. Raven‏ @Raven80504432 Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        Aral, curing hunger would require a society wide change of attitude, one directly opposite to the conditioning that's been going on for at least the last 60 or 70 yrs. It would need to start with a more sustainable way of living, & folk being personally responsible & independent.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Feb 8
        Replying to @Raven80504432

        Indeed. A change that is incompatible with the continued existence of multinational monopolies and billionaires.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Raven‏ @Raven80504432 Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        Well yeah, since they're the buggers responsible for the conditioning that moved us away from self reliance to relying on them & their unofficial front men in the first place! But they're so intertwined with govs now, it would not be an easy thing to achieve.

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      2. ultraDesign‏ @ultradesign_be Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        There's no magical cure for hunger (unless you desire to reduce the world population - and even then it's only solving a part if the problem) so it's useless to demand this from a successful entrepreneur.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Feb 8
        Replying to @ultradesign_be

        “A price has been set and estimated by the United Nations to solve this crisis – $30 billion a year. It may seem like a large sum of money, but when compared to the U.S. defense budget – $737 billion in 2012 – $30 billion seems more attainable” https://borgenproject.org/the-cost-to-end-world-hunger/ …pic.twitter.com/bXCYPJIGaO

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      4. ultraDesign‏ @ultradesign_be Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        Since the UN chooses Saudi-Arabia and Turkey to be best representing their views on human rights I have my doubts on the veracity of their statements. By the way 30 billion would seem a rather small amount to solve world hunger (just over 4$ for every human).

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      2. Gradinko‏ @_gradinko Feb 8
        Replying to @aral @boarken

        curing hunger is not a technological problem but a political one; we have more than enough food just many people can't afford it

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Raven‏ @Raven80504432 Feb 8
        Replying to @_gradinko @aral @boarken

        An issue of distribution rather than production. Which is square on the corporations, who would rather put food in the bin & have folk who lift it arrested for theft than feed those who are hungry.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Gradinko‏ @_gradinko Feb 8
        Replying to @Raven80504432 @aral @boarken

        we pay government subsidies to farmers to NOT grow more food really makes you want to move to Mars when you think about it

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Raven‏ @Raven80504432 Feb 8
        Replying to @_gradinko @aral @boarken

        Next solar system but one, please, that might be far enough away!

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      1. arda‏ @rdabasar Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        I'll have to agree with the other guy on this one. There's a balance to it, I believe: "producing to cure tomorrow"/"spending to cure today"

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      1. Eerke Boiten‏ @EerkeBoiten Feb 8
        Replying to @aral

        There has to be an alternative Maslow pyramid in this ...

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