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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    1. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jan 28

      Dear @readthedocs, Thank you :) “We’re building the advertising model we want to exist: • We don’t track you • We don’t sell your data • We host everything ourselves, no third-party scripts or images We’re doing newspaper advertising, on the internet.” #ethicaladspic.twitter.com/RZ9EOEFAas

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      Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jan 31

      Dear @readthedocs, Can you please explain to me how you can say “we don’t track you” and use Google Analytics in the same breath? (Thereby enabling Google to track people across the web). While you use Google’s tracker, your “Ethical Ads” is bullshit. 😡 HT @PrivacyMatterspic.twitter.com/nq2a523byz

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        2. /dev/null  💡 ⌛️‏ @agarwal_mohit Jan 31
          Replying to @aral @readthedocs @PrivacyMatters

          That's not the only tracker. newrelic is the other one.pic.twitter.com/7sIPUMGJCM

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        3. Andy Davies‏ @AndyDavies Feb 1
          Replying to @agarwal_mohit @aral and

          Classifying New Relic as a tracker is a bit harsh - it's in a set of tools that allow sites to measure and understand how fast pages load for visitors, what JS errors there are etc. Ultimately it and other Real User Monitoring products are about improving visitors experience

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        4. Privacy Matters‏ @PrivacyMatters Feb 1
          Replying to @AndyDavies @agarwal_mohit and

          And that raises an issue I’ve higjlited before - tools that allow people to see what 3rd parties are on a site label code like New Relic as a tracker. Perhaps to reflect this kind session tracking https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/browser/new-relic-browser/page-load-timing-resources/session-tracking …

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        5. Andy Davies‏ @AndyDavies Feb 1
          Replying to @PrivacyMatters

          Yeh, it's hard to judge where to draw the line - there's obviously a difference between cookies that last just of the life of a session on one site, vs ones that live longer and can track people across multiple sites

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        6. Privacy Matters‏ @PrivacyMatters Feb 1
          Replying to @AndyDavies

          I would love clarity and it’s why I’ve questioned some tools, is we can address FUD that might arise.

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        7. Matthew Smith #FBPE‏ @matticu Feb 1
          Replying to @PrivacyMatters @AndyDavies

          A really excellent tool for this is Baycloud Bouncer https://baycloud.com/bouncerDownload . It clearly reports embedded subresources as first or third party domains & reports NewRelic's session cookie as a non-tracker. It detects persistent probable UID i.e. tracking cookies (see red dot) #DNTpic.twitter.com/AtTsXsxhvI

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        8. Privacy Matters‏ @PrivacyMatters Feb 1
          Replying to @matticu

          Are you using an account level version of bouncer?

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        9. Matthew Smith #FBPE‏ @matticu Feb 1
          Replying to @PrivacyMatters

          No just the normal download for Chrome.

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        1. Linus Olsson‏ @bonq Jan 31
          Replying to @aral @readthedocs @PrivacyMatters

          ”Someone else tracks you” != ”We track you” ;)

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        1. Eric Holscher‏Verified account @ericholscher Feb 4
          Replying to @aral @readthedocs @PrivacyMatters

          Hey! I wanted to follow up here, as we *are* trying to do the right thing! I think this is a bit of sloppiness in our messaging, and I do apologize for that. Is it OK if I follow up via email, so we can talk a bit more nuanced?

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