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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 9 Nov 2017

    Aral Balkan Retweeted Damira Pon  👩🏻‍💻

    Odd thing, would love your thoughts: 1. They don’t warn you not to use Google Home, even though Google’s business model is to spy on you 2. They used to get ~$400M/year from Google, Inc. (Now they get it from behavioural tracking/ad company Yahoo!) Probably just coincidence.https://twitter.com/damirapon/status/928553997337874432 …

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    Damira Pon  👩🏻‍💻 @damirapon
    Mozilla's Privacy Not Included guide reveals if holiday gifts will spy on you https://www.csoonline.com/article/3236471/security/mozillas-privacy-not-included-guide-reveals-if-holiday-gifts-will-spy-on-you.html … via @csoonline
    1:29 AM - 9 Nov 2017
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    • _#-b_-B--b_-B-_-B--b PERVADE: Pervasive Data Ethics Jay chill innovation Miroslav Bajtoš 🇨🇿🇪🇺🇸🇰 maltimore@masto.themimitoof.fr (((tometaxu))) Lawrence Meckan Katla
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      2. Håvard Pedersen‏ @fuzzy76 9 Nov 2017
        Replying to @aral @TaleHaukbjork

        As a Google opposer I read through Google Home TOS and could not find anything indicating it spies on you. It was actually puzzling.

        1 reply 3 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 9 Nov 2017
        Replying to @fuzzy76 @TaleHaukbjork

        Read Google’s privacy policy and their financial statements: Google’s _business model_ is to spy on you. (See https://ar.al/notes/the-nature-of-the-self-in-the-digital-age/ …)

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      4. Håvard Pedersen‏ @fuzzy76 9 Nov 2017
        Replying to @aral @TaleHaukbjork

        I am perfectly aware of that, I left gmail years ago for that exact reason.

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      2. Bruno Scheele  🌺‏ @brunoscheele 9 Nov 2017
        Replying to @aral

        They don't warn against any product, if I read a couple of them correctly. They mention the privacy concerns and let you decide yourself.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 9 Nov 2017
        Replying to @brunoscheele

        Do they mention the privacy concerns, though? Do you see any privacy concerns about Alphabet, Inc. & Google, Inc.’s business models, privacy policy, and opaque algorithms? Can you point me to one example where Mozilla has criticised Google’s surveillance-based business model?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Bruno Scheele  🌺‏ @brunoscheele 9 Nov 2017
        Replying to @aral

        December 2009 apparently (https://www.pcworld.com/article/184520/mozilla_endorses_bing_over_google_privacy_issues.html …). Your point still stands though. In the context of this guide, they don’t treat anyone…

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Bruno Scheele  🌺‏ @brunoscheele 9 Nov 2017
        Replying to @brunoscheele @aral

        … differently, but they may have chosen deliberately to avoid making a statement about the companies to exclude possible scathing criticism.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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