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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Jun 2017

    “Your money or your privacy!” Google to enable publishers to extort people who protect their privacy on the Web.http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40132519 …

    10:17 AM - 2 Jun 2017
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      2. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        Aral Balkan Retweeted Aral Balkan

        If this is legal under GDPR, we need a new GDPR, @PaulNemitzhttps://twitter.com/aral/status/870690732859736065 …

        Aral Balkan added,

        Aral Balkan @aral
        “Your money or your privacy!” Google to enable publishers to extort people who protect their privacy on the Web. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40132519 …
        3 replies 16 retweets 12 likes
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      1. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        Aral Balkan Retweeted Aral Balkan

        Via Kea Wijkstra (https://mastodon.social/@KeaW ) on Mastodon. (https://mastodon.social/users/KeaW/updates/2563995 …)https://twitter.com/aral/status/870690732859736065 …

        Aral Balkan added,

        Aral Balkan @aral
        “Your money or your privacy!” Google to enable publishers to extort people who protect their privacy on the Web. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40132519 …
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      2. Carri Craver‏ @ccgirl 2 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        I'm all for privacy. But publishers should be allowed their business model to. I'd be fine paying for a product instead of being the product

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Jun 2017
        Replying to @ccgirl

        Not if that business model erodes human rights (as the adtech model does).

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Carri Craver‏ @ccgirl 2 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        Journalism co.s w/ 2 options for customers: be the product ( adtech) or pay for product, are now extortion? No way. Journalism has value.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Arthur‏ @ABIV 4 Jun 2017
        Replying to @ccgirl @aral

        This misses the point, it's the tracking, gathering of personal info, lack of transparency, not to mention security issues from online ads.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      6. Arthur‏ @ABIV 4 Jun 2017
        Replying to @ABIV @ccgirl @aral

        Journalism is one of the most vital institutions we have, but invasive ads and expecting users to pay for every news source are not the way.

        3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      7. 1000startups Europe‏ @1000startupsEU 6 Jun 2017
        Replying to @ABIV @ccgirl @aral

        I totally agree, why would we have to pay for the news/product, everything should be free! Let's nationalize all companies in EU!

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 7 Jun 2017
        Replying to @1000startupsEU

        Aral Balkan Retweeted 1000startups Europe

        Dear @1000startupsEU, why don’t you fuck off back to whatever Silicon Valley or Singularity University hole you crawled out of?https://twitter.com/1000startupsEU/status/872264478171299840 …

        Aral Balkan added,

        1000startups Europe @1000startupsEU
        Replying to @ABIV @ccgirl @aral
        I totally agree, why would we have to pay for the news/product, everything should be free! Let's nationalize all companies in EU!
        3 replies 4 retweets 16 likes
      9. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 7 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        Aral Balkan Retweeted Aral Balkan

        (And take your false dichotomies and your surveillance capitalism with you. We don’t want it or you in Europe.) https://ar.al/notes/diem25-internet-of-people-launch-in-berlin/ …https://twitter.com/aral/status/872386140279627777 …

        Aral Balkan added,

        Aral Balkan @aral
        Replying to @1000startupsEU
        Dear @1000startupsEU, why don’t you fuck off back to whatever Silicon Valley or Singularity University hole you crawled out of? https://twitter.com/1000startupsEU/status/872264478171299840 …
        0 replies 4 retweets 11 likes
      10. End of conversation
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      2. laissez faire‏ @kittekat4 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        To me a simple add is not the problem. The tracking that comes with it is the problem. we are being tracked all over the internet by google.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @kittekat4

        Exactly. This isn’t about advertising, it’s about adtech (tracking).

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. laissez faire‏ @kittekat4 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        discusion should be focused on tracking. If the tracking is out of the advert its fine by me. I just scroll past the advert. 😉 #notracking

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @kittekat4

        Agree.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Nilesh Trivedi‏ @nileshtrivedi 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral @kittekat4

        How could tracking be prevented? If browsers block third-party cookies/scripts/pixels, tracking industry will move to sharing server logs?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @nileshtrivedi @kittekat4

        We can/will/do prevent via tech and via legislation. Also, by funding/creating non-surveillance-based alternatives. https://ar.al/notes/towards-an-internet-of-people-with-diem25/ …

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Stephan Engberg‏ @Engbrg 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        Any decent adblocker would block Google adblocker 😃

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @Engbrg

        Aral Balkan Retweeted nattsuhon

        Seehttps://twitter.com/nattsuhon/status/870742250036371460 …

        Aral Balkan added,

        nattsuhon @nattsuhon
        Replying to @nattsuhon
        Blocking "Funding Choices" will result in the page loading and showing normally. But a fake message will quickly hide it #darkpatterns pic.twitter.com/3SpI3QfGhu
        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Stephan Engberg‏ @Engbrg 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        The issue is not blocking ads, but blocking tracking.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @Engbrg

        That’s why I make a tracker blocker, yes.https://better.fyi 

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Stephan Engberg‏ @Engbrg 3 Jun 2017
        Replying to @aral

        Sure, but how do you block Ip, device fingerprinting, payments, signing, delivery etc? You are talking about the easy part. Enabling is hard

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. End of conversation

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