Get off your high horse/don’t forget EU is culpable in Erdoğan’s rise & in pushing Turkey towards Islamism by dragging its feet for decades.https://twitter.com/TheProgressives/status/853888491104677888 …
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EU was never serious about Turkish ascension. You pushed the country into the welcoming hands of the Islamic world.https://twitter.com/aral/status/853891482234867712 …
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You watched as secularism and democracy was eroded, afraid of opening up your Christian club to a majority Muslim yet secular country.https://twitter.com/aral/status/853892596661399553 …
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So congratulations, EU. You now have a burgeoning Islamist dictatorship at your borders that you helped create.https://twitter.com/aral/status/853892881047846912 …
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And which you support because it helps keep the brown people away from your shores.https://twitter.com/aral/status/853893353968209920 …
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So whatever you do, don’t you dare get sanctimonious about it. </rant>https://twitter.com/aral/status/853893718075637761 …
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Politically difficult to admit Turkey into the EU because of size, religion. Wonder whether you are right about EU causing current situation
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Not EU alone. But could have steered it in a different direction. Supported the progressives. Could have been a positive factor.
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s/liberal/progressive/
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Sorry - which liberal governments ? Only Erdogan's AKP did reforms to make progress on ascension & that was in fact for their own agenda.
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There were progressive governments that tried to work towards EU accession.
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I seriously doubt it. Can you name them please?
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Here’s Çiller’s words on it for a start:http://www.danielpipes.org/6306/tansu-ciller-secularism-indispensable-turkey …
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Ciller was a ultra-corrupted failure who brought us on the brink of a war against Greece, may not be a good example of EU integration policy
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Yes, she was. You asked for an example of a govt that was secular/progressive and wanted to move ahead with accession.
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Right, but these were only words as I said. They did nothing. Remember how this helped AKP building their argument "They talk, AKP delivers"
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Indeed.
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Liberal yanlış tanım aydınlanmacı, ilerici doğru tanım . Onlar de facto daha liberal ama tabi ki.
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“Progressive” – yes, better.
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Where they were? Sitting in their safe homes enjoying the buffer that TR provided all the while calling the likes of me paranoid Kemalists
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Liberal ??? from 2007 to 2014 we were telling the islamist Abdullah Gül to respect the separation between church and state...
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