Privacy and security are interrelated concepts but they’re not one and the same.
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You can have excellent security without any privacy. And, while harder, you can even have privacy without security. Let me explain:
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Google has excellent security. They employ the best security experts. And yet, when you use their services, you have absolutely no privacy.
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Everything you do when you use Google’s services is tracked, stored, and analysed by Google, Inc.
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All that information is kept very safe from anyone else because, like any other business, Google has an interest in keeping its assets safe.
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How about privacy without security? Now that’s harder, but possible, through obscurity. (This is not something I recommend.) An example:
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If you go out into the middle of nowhere and build a cabin, you will have privacy, even if you don’t have locks on the door (or even a door)
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(But that only works until someone discovers your cabin.)
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Pragmatically, then, we can say that lack of security can negatively impact your privacy but excellent security doesn’t imply privacy.
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To bring it all back: so why don’t some security/infosec folks care about your privacy? It’s because they’re working in security.
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And if they work for Google, Facebook, etc., what they’re tasked with securing isn’t your privacy; it’s the assets of these corporations.
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(Which is what you and your data are.) End thread.
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Privacy requires security, o/w not only can Google and Facebook track you, ANYONE can track you. Privacy via obscurity is nonsense.
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Good summary of the thread :) I specifically said I don’t recommend privacy via obscurity; just that it’s possible.
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The problem is we don't have a good definition of privacy as such (minus maybe Dwork), as opposed to security (Goldwasser-Micali)
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Privacy is having the power to decide what you share with others and what you keep to yourself.
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The long-standing problem is how to divvy up 'individual' info you can control sharing over vs. social info that shared by definition
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logged out of Facebook. Deactivated your account? You're still tracked. Deleted your account? You're still tracked. And monetized.
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That's on one hand. OTOH, private data is a trillion $ business. Facebook has thousands of B2B relationships with other companies...
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One simply cannot choose to go out into public and remain private doing so. ILLOGICAL.
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