Don’t conflate security/privacy. Security is necessary but not sufficient for privacy. Facebook is very secure but affords you zero privacy.
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to achieve overlap between security and privacy we need to create secure personal data spaces —> private by default
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Exactly. And they must be interoperable and commons-based.
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isnt this exactly what you are getting wrong about whatsapp atm? :D
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Quite the opposite, it’s what some infosec people are getting wrong about it when they recommend a non-private app to activists.
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i haven't seen any of them recommend it to activists. As I see it, they're saying "prefer whatsapp to SMS, FB messenger, ...
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... dont scare normal users away from whatsapp." Most of the signees of that letter I *know* vehemently rec Signal.
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My point: I see what you say they are saying; but I see them saying something different
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"secure" means nothing without a threat model. Ccorporations should not be in people's threat model *under normal governments*.
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sadly in the past few years we've seen quite a few governments go wrong in very very scary ways.
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