“This is surrender, not principle.”
@GSpellchecker on how closing your eyes doesn’t make the problem disappear.https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/12/the-chicago-review-of-books-attempts-a-stand-against-milo-yiannopoulos-and-bolsters-his-rhetoric-instead/ …
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(That said, freedom of speech does not imply a freedom to compel anyone to listen.)
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I find your argument here a bit confusing. Surely a public sphere would not publish and advertise for anyone's ideas.
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Exactly. And yet it would facilitate their expression and debate. Monopoly of centralised private platforms is the problem.
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So publishing being done by private corporations is the problem in this particular case?
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I was simply noting that under Capitalism, the issue of brand damage cannot be reconciled with free speech.
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I don't agree with this. As long as corps are free to publish what they want, it is free speech.
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but I'm intrigued by the details of counter-arguments. Why would an entity's choice to not further a thought be limited speech?
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It’s not. What I’m saying is that we must foster spheres where exchange of ideas don’t have private gatekeepers.
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I'm curious. How will that help us win the war of ideas exactly?
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Because we know what kind of ideas rule in a system where we are not free to express and debate ideas (authoritarian ones).
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I dont believe for 1 sec that having a system in which we are truly free to express and debate ideas would prevent authoritarian ideas
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The goal is not to prevent ideas but to prevent the prevention of ideas.
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Fair enough, but that's a different issue imo
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Having complete freedom to express ideas is not going to be enough in itself to defeat authoritarianism.
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No argument there. Necessary but not sufficient.
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Yeah. That much I agree with :-)
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however, Nazis will cynically exploit people's tolerance and their debating style involves inciting violence or carrying it out
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Indeed. And we must not tolerate intolerance. That’s why constitutional protections of fundamental freedoms are essential.
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but they will use that tactic—and win many battles.
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