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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 30 Nov 2016

    Any group that owes its identity to the existence of a problem is, by definition, incentivised not to solve it but to keep working on it.

    2:17 AM - 30 Nov 2016
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      2. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral

        If you truly care about solving an issue, base your identity not on your opposition but on the vision of a future where you’ve solved it.

        1 reply 7 retweets 15 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral

        Aral Balkan Retweeted Aral Balkan

        (A future where your group/movement no longer needs to exist.)https://twitter.com/aral/status/803906254905245696 …

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        Aral Balkan @aral
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        If you truly care about solving an issue, base your identity not on your opposition but on the vision of a future where you’ve solved it.
        1 reply 3 retweets 11 likes
      4. Artem‏ @clartem 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral

        Just curious, Aral. Is that how you see @indie?

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @clartem @indie

        Exactly. We exist with the hope that we won’t have to exist in the future. (Or that we can be part of a better mainstream.)

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Artem‏ @clartem 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral @indie

        Sincerely wishing you success in the endeavour!

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Chris Martin‏ @chris__martin 30 Dec 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @ziggamon Is this the old "cancer researchers aren't incentivized to cure cancer" conspiracy theory?

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 30 Dec 2016
        Replying to @chris__martin

        Nope, it’s an observation that if you value your identity and that identity is tied to the existence of a problem…+@ziggamon

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      2. Tom Lawton‏Verified account @tomlawton 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral

        Only if the drive of that group is profit.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @tomlawton

        Not necessarily; identity itself is a very strong motivator.

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      4. Tom Lawton‏Verified account @tomlawton 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral

        You're right.

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      1. @acb@mastodon.social‏ @andrewcb 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral

        This often happens in resistance movements, which morph into organised crime after they “win” (i.e., Sicilian mafia, Irish paras)

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      1. Darren McNaney‏ @DarrenMcNaney 30 Nov 2016
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        “Parklife!” Sorry! Couldn’t resist… :)

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      2. AceraPeatonal‏ @AceraPeatonal 1 Dec 2016
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        @JacobinoEnBici @aral pues a nosotras nos encantaría disolvernos

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      3. J. Polo‏ @JacobinoEnBici 1 Dec 2016
        Replying to @AceraPeatonal @aral

        ¡Ojalá pudieseis disolveros! De momento y mientras tanto, seguid trabajando así!!!

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      1. Beautyon‏ @Beautyon_ 30 Dec 2016
        Replying to @aral

        Anti Racists, anti Poverty, Socialists, Democracy lovers, Global Warming campaigners, SJWs and Labour all share this characteristic.

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      1. Wendy Cockcroft‏ @wendycockcroft 30 Nov 2016
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        That may explain why certain political groups blather on about "class" as if it were the cause of all our problems. It's a boogeyman.

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      1. Dan Stowell‏ @mclduk 30 Nov 2016
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        sorry but "by definition" no. only true if the group members have incentive to group's sustained existence. thus not by defn

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      1. Rachel Lawson  🇪🇺‏ @rachel_norfolk 30 Nov 2016
        Replying to @aral

        you mean like pharmaceutical companies? ;-)

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      1. @acb@mastodon.social‏ @andrewcb 30 Nov 2016
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        One could add Lenin’s “withering away of the state” to this as a grim joke

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      1. @acb@mastodon.social‏ @andrewcb 30 Nov 2016
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        also, every organisation’s implicit first imperative is self-perpetuation

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