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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 20 Jul 2016

    Unless we can fund technology independently – without venture capital – we are *not* going to fix the privacy problem. It’s that simple.

    1:53 AM - 20 Jul 2016
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      2. Sas3 of ActiFend‏ @sastrytumuluri 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @5amStartups Not just venture capital. The need for (any) capital & ROI will do, to undermine #privacy.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @sastrytumuluri

        Investment could be in sustainable returns – e.g., share of revenue. *Capital/equity investment* = problem.+@5amStartups

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      4. Sas3 of ActiFend‏ @sastrytumuluri 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        May not be enough. As long as any other anti-privacy tech is funded it's a tech arms race. Impossible situation, no? @5amStartups

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @sastrytumuluri

        Hard problem, not impossible. Especially if we start paying for the commons out of the commons. +@5amStartups

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. Sas3 of ActiFend‏ @sastrytumuluri 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        LOL, yes. We only need to fix the management of the commons problem. Leads to "fix democracy", hmm. </wet-blanket> +@5amStartups

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      2. David Walker‏ @BeardLikeAJedi 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        at FinTech conference this week and this stuck out as an alternative http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2016/02/26/how-an-entrepreneur-achieved-a-150m-valuation-for-his-startup-with-no-venture-capital/#7a8d5850ee6b …

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @BeardLikeAJedi

        Interesting. Would be interested in chatting to them at some point.

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      2. Daniel Harvey‏ @Daniel__Harvey 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        Or that complicated, as the case may be.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @Daniel__Harvey

        Indeed :)

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      2. Dan Selman‏ @danielselman 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        no hope for ethical VCs? Can't privacy be a differentiator? Is the temptation to monetize data too strong?

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @danielselman

        VCs invest in the exit, not sustainable long-term success. Cannot protect the social mission when you must sell for ROI.

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      4. Dan Selman‏ @danielselman 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        good point. Also sounds like a potential strike against public limited companies, at least in their current form.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. d_kieffer‏ @d_kieffer 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        agree but the solution is not yet clear. For one, basic income could be a start.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @d_kieffer

        Depends on the kind of basic income we’re talking about. The Silicon Valley kind definitely doesn’t spell social progress.

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      4. d_kieffer‏ @d_kieffer 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        the universal kind I think can go a long way, but it's still not a panacea.

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      1. Daniel Lommes  🔵‏ @lommes 20 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        what you are saying is "Capitalism and privacy are incompatible." right?

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      1. WikiTerms‏ @WikiTerms 20 Jul 2016
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        This is true. We are some way to solving that question of independent funding with the #CC.

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