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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Jul 2016

    Aral Balkan Retweeted  🗽 Just GK  🗽

    Please listen to oppressed Muslims and ex-Muslims: choice isn’t choice if ramifications are ostracism or worse.https://twitter.com/GenKnoxx/status/748804460579737600 …

    Aral Balkan added,

     🗽 Just GK  🗽 @GenKnoxx
    I <3 Aral. But I disagree re burkas. If a woman wears one in a western society, quite likely it's by her choice. https://twitter.com/aral/status/748802936226979840 …
    2:06 AM - 1 Jul 2016
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      2. Andreas Renberg's Obscure References, A.B.‏ @IQAndreas 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @GenKnoxx I see asking Muslim women to leave the house without a burka more akin to asking a western woman to leave the house topless.

        2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @IQAndreas

        I don’t even know how to reply to that so I’m going to remove myself from this conversation now. +@GenKnoxx

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Tony Lukasavage‏ @tonylukasavage 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @GenKnoxx brainwashing is a hell of a thing

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @tonylukasavage @aral

        but what happens when there is real choice, but a (large part of) society stands in opposition? What's that?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx

        .@tonylukasavage @aral I don't care what other Muslims say about covering. We must build/maintain free societies and then women can choose.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx @tonylukasavage @aral

        the key is that women must be empowered to freely decide. Freedom, not restrictions, is what's required. And, TBH, ...

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx @tonylukasavage @aral

        I'm entirely mystified by this thread. You cannot free people by restricting them. But yeah helping women leave is $$$

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Tony Lukasavage‏ @tonylukasavage 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx @aral

        I agree with you on choice, and I disagree that anyone should be able to limit their choice.

        2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
      8.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @tonylukasavage

        it's tricky. I get it. But Americans seem to accept freedom of religion for everyone but Muslims. See pinned tweet. @aral

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Tony Lukasavage‏ @tonylukasavage 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx @aral

        barking up the wrong tree there, I’m secular through and through. :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        I know, Aral, but there ARE those who choose coverings of different kinds. We must respect that. It's ok that we disagree here.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx @aral

        I assure you that most women in the US and Canada wearing burkas know they can leave their situations and stop wearing it. And...

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx @aral

        if not, the solution isn't to oppose burkas (insert faith-y thing) but to have better education about programs to which they can flee.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5.  🗽 Just GK  🗽‏ @GenKnoxx 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @GenKnoxx

        Here's the deal: America is about our fundamental protected rights. Religion, privacy, press, speech. I won't suggest we compromise them.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. End of conversation
      1. Eddy Bruel‏ @ejpbruel 1 Jul 2016
        Replying to @aral

        That is a very good point, and one I never really considered before!

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