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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 14 Mar 2016

    Dear @tom_watson, How can you let Labour abstain in #IPBill? You’ve already lost my respect; how many other technologists will Labour lose?

    11:13 PM - 14 Mar 2016
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      2. glynwintle‏ @glynwintle 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @aral please remember to be polite when talking to MPs.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 23 Mar 2016
        Replying to @glynwintle

        @glynwintle ?

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      2. Tom Watson‏Verified account @tom_watson 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @aral we are not opposing on second reading because we seek to improve safeguards during the passage of the Bill.

        6 replies 3 retweets 2 likes
      3. Russell Garner‏ @rgarner 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @tom_watson

        @tom_watson @aral there will be no safeguards once you’ve effectively broken encryption in the UK. We thought you understood tech; you don’t

        1 reply 2 retweets 7 likes
      4. Tom Watson‏Verified account @tom_watson 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @rgarner

        @rgarner @aral My goal is not to understand tech more, but to explain politics to techies. Opposition requires tactics. We have no power.

        12 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
      5. Russell Garner‏ @rgarner 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @tom_watson

        @tom_watson @aral from where we’re standing it looks like the vital organs of the UK digital economy are about to be ripped out.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      6. Tom Watson‏Verified account @tom_watson 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @rgarner

        @rgarner @aral I'm not defending this Bill. It's in poor shape.We are going to try to improve it. Why not see the debate and get back to me?

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      7. Russell Garner‏ @rgarner 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @tom_watson

        @tom_watson @aral I can’t understand why you would not at least go on record as having opposed it rather than abstaining.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Tom Watson‏Verified account @tom_watson 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @rgarner

        @rgarner @aral This is much harder to explain on social media but it's the best chance of getting improvements in Parliament.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Russell Garner‏ @rgarner 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @tom_watson

        @tom_watson @aral are you saying attempting to vote it down will hamstring your chances of making amendments later?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. John Leach‏ @johnleach 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @tom_watson remember that Labour pushed laws like this when they were in power. Little has changed.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Tom Watson‏Verified account @tom_watson 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @johnleach

        @johnleach @aral How can I forget? I opposed much of them.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      4. John Leach‏ @johnleach 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @tom_watson

        @tom_watson @aral so what +has+ changed is that you can no longer oppose them? Doesn't seem like progress to me.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      1. Christopher Brennan‏ @ChristoHaunted 15 Mar 2016
        Replying to @aral

        @aral we must force Labour to vote against this bill but I dont think the abstaining as anything to do with @tom_watson

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      1. Rolo Tamasi‏ @Rolo_Tamasi 15 Mar 2016
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        @aral @GazTheJourno @tom_watson abstain is effectively a vote in favour.

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