@aral bizarre. Linux users not people? And why on earth is linux on desktop, mobile or laptop an 'engine' not a 'car'? Works fine for me.
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@navtis Hey Graham, you have a PGP key in your Twitter bio, of course it works well for you ;) -
@aral Sounds like Microsoft in early 2000s - you really believe Linux systems hard to use, only fit for techies etc? -
@navtis Only difference is that I want to see free/independent alternatives succeed. Microsoft has *slightly* different aims. -
@aral But how do you make them succeed by saying not fit for purpose, unless encouraging improvements? Comes over as FUD, even if not intent -
@navtis Because we must accept that there is a problem before we can solve it. Also doing — early days: https://forum.ind.ie/c/design-and-development …
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@aral My parents use Linux Mint Debian Edition and are happy with it. -
@ChPietsch Did they buy the hardware and install it themselves? Or did someone do it for them? -
@aral Yeah, I installed Linux on their old PC. -
@ChPietsch Bingo :) We can’t compete w walking into a store & buying A Thing That Just Works if we need to ship a Chris w every one of ours. -
@aral You could ship Things That Just Work with Linux pre-installed. No Chris needed then IMHO. -
@ChPietsch Yep.@Puri_sm look like they’re going in that direction. But also the whole ecosystem. -
@aral@ChPietsch It has to be the whole ecosystem. No#trapdoors no#backdoors anywhere -- chip by chip, app by app.
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@aral I mean ok 10years ago but seriously my wacomm tablet works under Ubuntu and fedora plug and play needs to download drivers for Windows -
@aral and the year of Linux on the desktop came and went it was called Android and it has a market share -
@aimee_maree Yep, and it is spyware. (Not AOSP, but Google Play Services — what regular folks use when they use “Android”.) -
@aral that's the difference with ASOP and iOS at least with ASOP you have access to a Linux kernel if you want to get techncial -
@aimee_maree Indeed. And yet you’re not using it to being with unless you’re Aimee’s friend and had it set up for you :) -
@aral no there's online tutorials what we need to change is a culture of convinence to one of makers and tinkers -
@aimee_maree I have to disagree. I see that approach as the problem. Same person can be tinkerer, a regular consumer, & a business user. -
@aral so roll your own kernel ;)
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