If Whatsapp had 1 billion users and each one paid $1/yr, it would take Facebook 19 years to recoup the $19B it paid this year.
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@aral e2e encryption doesn't fit my assumptions about FB's motives in acquiring FB though. I remain confused about their agenda. -
@graphiclunarkid@aral right, time to rethink those assumptions. -
@frabcus I’ll rethink the assumptions when Facebook alters its business model :) +@graphiclunarkid -
@aral@frabcus@graphiclunarkid they still still have the metadata, textsecure doesn't protect against that, right? -
@dominictarr@aral@graphiclunarkid very good question - can they use phone number social graph from@whatsapp in@facebook ad products? -
@frabcus@aral@graphiclunarkid@WhatsApp@facebook see "shadow profile" -
@dominictarr@frabcus@aral After reflecting on our discussion I've done some writing. I'd welcome your thoughts! https://richardskingdom.net/privacy-progress-perils-perfectionism … -
@graphiclunarkid@dominictarr@frabcus Good article. No time to reply now but would like to as we also need recognise difference between…
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@aral Just guessing, but have you considered tax optimisation? -
@aral I was remembering http://ur1.ca/itdif "The real reason Google bought Motorola: Patents are nice, but tax losses are worth more" -
@aral That's assuming Facebook pays any taxes in the first place, which I'm not sure about.
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@aral I think it's just a PR stunt. It's worthless to have encryption if the client is closed source. And they still have meta data.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral Do you remember the quote about "we're using privacy as a tool to make you feel safe"? This. Just for the purpose of user retention.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral c) Facebook believes that market dominanance of the OTA messaging space to be a $19b poker chip against their competitors?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral So basically I just more or less debunked the "fact" that E2E encryption to a 3rd party automatically makes your data more private.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral 2/ Facebook needs unencrypted access to data for data mining. So the data is still stored unencrypted, so available in plain text.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral .. using datacenter interlinks. Therefore there's no point to E2E encryption. (2/2)Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral 1/ The NSA is not tapping data between Facebook and the user. It's tapping data between Facebook and Facebook... (1/2)Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral Charge $20/yr for privacy features.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@aral it could be a lossleader. Keep it in the ecosystem. Secure chat is coming. FB stand to lose if someone else winsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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