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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014

    In case the initial announcement doesn’t make it clear, Heartbeat & all our platform code will be released under GNU GPL. #freeasinfreedom

    10:44 AM - 1 Oct 2014
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    • Bálint Szilakszi Juan Sosa Nathan Pitman Magnar Sveen Cody Dan Palmer Claudia Leduc Rafael Teixeira Glyn Moody
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      2. Joerg Schwieder‏ @cooliopenguin 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral GPL is not free. It severely limits my freedom wherever I get close to it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @cooliopenguin

        @cooliopenguin We’re not talking about the freedom of business to close it off. We’re talking about the freedom to keep it open.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Joerg Schwieder‏ @cooliopenguin 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral it's not a license, it's a dogma. A dogma, by definition, can't be "free"

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @cooliopenguin

        @cooliopenguin Let’s agree to disagree on that. I believe we know what we’re doing on a core decision affecting our platform :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Joerg Schwieder‏ @cooliopenguin 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral sure. You are free to do what you feel you need to. I'd just take the freedom of staying away from it when it makes me unfree :)

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @cooliopenguin

        @cooliopenguin We’ll still be there to welcome you when you reconsider :) (Seriously, do take a look before you dismiss it due to GPL.)

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Joerg Schwieder‏ @cooliopenguin 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral my problem is that from what I do I immediately know a number of things I can NOT do due to GPL which are quite important to me.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Brito‏ @nn81 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Since the infrastructure is meant to be a service, GPL is the new BSD and can be closed. Have you considered AGPL to assure freedom?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @nn81

        @nn81 Yep. Now looking into that :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Brito‏ @nn81 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral If in doubt about the differences, just ask. I write tools to check licenses as a full-time job: https://github.com/triplecheck/reporter … Happy to help

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @nn81

        @nn81 Neat, thank you :)

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Nathan Pitman‏ @nathanpitman 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral you've prob answered this before but how is this all funded 'long term' beyond initial crowd funding? Will device sales fund indienet?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @nathanpitman

        @nathanpitman Hey man, several streams we’re considering: a pay-for version of clients to compete on UX, backup, etc. services, devices :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Nathan Pitman‏ @nathanpitman 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral thanks. Good to hear. In regards to heartbeat, be sure to learn from @appdotnet

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @nathanpitman

        @nathanpitman Thanks, man. We’re very different to @AppDotNet in approach and architecture. But last I checked they were a successful niche.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Martin Pilkington‏ @pilky 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral :(

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @pilky

        @pilky Did you really just send me a frowny face on GPL? :)

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Martin Pilkington‏ @pilky 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral That's usually the face I make as a dev when the GPL crops up ;)

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @pilky

        @pilky It is the only way we can protect the long-term freedom of the platform.

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      6. End of conversation
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      2. hugo roy‏ @hugoroyd 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @glynmoody GNU AGPL would fit better, I suppose it’s going to be web interfaces ;-)

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @hugoroyd

        @hugoroyd We’ll choose whatever is the license that protects freedom the best. v3 appears to be that at the moment…+@glynmoody

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. hugo roy‏ @hugoroyd 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @glynmoody yes, version 3, GNU Affero General Public License https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0 …

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @hugoroyd

        @hugoroyd @glynmoody Am I mistaken, afaik v3 also covers network uses, no?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. hugo roy‏ @hugoroyd 1 Oct 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @glynmoody no, not the plain GPL, only the AGPL. Section 13. Remote Network Interaction; Use with the GNU General Public License.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. End of conversation

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