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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014

    No opt out of full-body scanner in Amsterdam. Told, I either go through it or I don’t fly. Netherlands, where corporeal privacy is dead.

    3:53 AM - 24 Sep 2014
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      1. New conversation
      2. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        Well that, & talking to @ncilla yesterday cements it, was considering moving ind.ie to Amsterdam in the long term. That won’t be happening.

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Rebecca Shipham‏ @shipsandpigs 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @ncilla I had same problem in London. Told them I had a right to say ‘no’. I was just pushed in and told I *had* to. Not happy.

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      4. Jonas Wallecan‏ @Jonazzty 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @shipsandpigs

        @shipsandpigs @aral @ncilla if i’m obliged to interfere but why would you say no to a full body scan if you’ve got nothing to hide? ..

        4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @Jonazzty

        @Jonazzty @shipsandpigs @ncilla Why don’t you post a naked photo of yourself here if you have nothing to hide?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Jonas Wallecan‏ @Jonazzty 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral hahaha :-D because that’s inappropriate according to #twitter their therms of use :p .. #ualmostgotmethere // @shipsandpigs @ncilla

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Theo Lietaert‏ @TheoLietaert 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral That's crap! They let me skip.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @TheoLietaert

        @TheoLietaert Well the security person in charge flat out lied to my face then. +@schiphol

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Theo Lietaert‏ @TheoLietaert 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I think they seriously violated your rights as a European citizen.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @TheoLietaert

        Aral Balkan Retweeted Daniel J. Bernstein

        @TheoLietaert It sounds like it. And it gets worse (from a weeks ago, via @mindcrash):https://twitter.com/hashbreaker/status/510552968912191489 …

        Aral Balkan added,

        Daniel J. Bernstein @hashbreaker
        Today gave AMS screeners 6-page http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140912-schiphol.pdf …: EU opt-out law they're violating. They said they don't care. pic.twitter.com/FzQzKCmgXB
        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Theo Lietaert‏ @TheoLietaert 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral what the hell. The guy told me I needed a serious medical reason to opt out at first, but then gave up after I insisted. @mindcrash

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @TheoLietaert

        @TheoLietaert So you were lied to as well.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Theo Lietaert‏ @TheoLietaert 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Pretty much. I was in a hurry at the time, so I didn't have time to file a complaint.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      9. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Gary Barnett‏ @thinkovation 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Do they display the scans on a big screen then? Or have they implemented measures to ensure the scans are kept private?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @thinkovation

        @thinkovation Private means “for you alone”. The very fact they get to see it makes it public, not private.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Gary Barnett‏ @thinkovation 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral No it doesn't. That's just nonsense. Think about all the private information you share with other people, privately.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @thinkovation

        @thinkovation *People*, not governments or corporations.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Gary Barnett‏ @thinkovation 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral So you agree that your first definition is nonsense? Now think of all the private things you share with governments and corporations

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @thinkovation

        @thinkovation Not in the least. By its very definition that which is shared with a government or a corporation is not private.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Gary Barnett‏ @thinkovation 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral by Your definition of private is wrong. Your bank records are not public, your tax records are not public.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Rolf‏ @rolfje 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral so what did you do? That's the real question. They get away with stuff like this because we give in.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @rolfje

        @rolfje I submitted as I was about to miss my plane.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Rolf‏ @rolfje 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral As expected.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 24 Sep 2014
        Replying to @rolfje

        @rolfje And yet missing my flight & missing my talk in Cologne & making ind.ie pay more would not have been the wisest strategy.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. End of conversation

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