Fuck this shit. Really. Can someone give me the very fucking tiny of list of who we can trust these days? FFS. *goes to bed*
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@aral Here's a clue. Any company with VC, PE or public investors will not be on list. Only independent vendors stand a hope. Sorry. :-( -
@MarkLittlewood Don’t be sorry—they love their fucking disruption? Let’s show them disruption. Slow, meaningful, unstoppable disruption. -
@aral I AM sorry. Not because you aren't doing something about it, but that because I wish it wasn't the case.
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You know what, if you’re an ‘activist’ you do not get into bed w Google & Condoleezza-fucking-Rice Dropbox. You just don’t fucking do that.
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@aral sometimes it is necessary to get behind someone before you stab them in the back. -
@graemearthur I’ll believe it when I see the bloody dagger.#WellThatEscalatedQuickly :)
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@aral "Simply Secure" is not 'simply private'. MyPOV: http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2014/09/19/simply-secure-launch … //@doctorow@sheuer -
@Steve_Lockstep@aral@sheuer Worrying about private surveillance w/o understanding that it exists as an organ of state survei. is naive -
@doctorow@Steve_Lockstep@aral@sheuer Indeed. So how should we see gmail-scanning streetmap-sniffing Google as a partner in this? -
@CyberSecKent@Steve_Lockstep@aral@sheuer SS's work is transparent, auditable, forkable, and peer-reviewed. -
@doctorow@CyberSecKent@Steve_Lockstep@sheuer Would you be ok if NSA sponsored under the same terms as Google? -
@aral@CyberSecKent@Steve_Lockstep@sheuer Yes. I speak at Defcon, where Alexander speaks. -
@doctorow@CyberSecKent@Steve_Lockstep@sheuer Is Defcon sponsored by the NSA? Participating in an event not same as leading an initiative. -
@aral@CyberSecKent@Steve_Lockstep@sheuer It's same reason I trust Apple's UI research even while I deplore status as world #1 DRM vendor
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@aral@doctorow@sheuer I can see Google on https://simplysecure.org/who-we-are/ - no mention of Dropbox -
@frabcus See partners. - End of conversation
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