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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 28 Mar 2014

    97% of experts agree that the mushroom is poisonous… would you feed it to your kids? Climate change, made simple.pic.twitter.com/bBSOyZDF7U

    12:52 AM - 28 Mar 2014
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      2. Rafa Barberá‏ @rbarbera 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral It only seems misleading to me? Not all mushrooms are poisonous. Bad analogy

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @rbarbera

        @rbarbera Read it again, it says ‘the mushroom’ (as in one specific type of mushroom). The analogy is sound.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Rafa Barberá‏ @rbarbera 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Ok, as a specific type of mushroom, it works. That's the problem when you don't master a foreign language completely ;)

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @rbarbera

        @rbarbera No worries, man; at least you know a foreign language, many here don’t :)

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Jarno Peschier‏ @peSHIr 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @Roho2007 Things like this are always in the details. Like: what (exact type of) mushroom? Which experts? How many experts? #etc

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @peSHIr

        @peSHIr @Roho2007 No, it really isn’t. This mushroom. 97% of all peer-reviewed articles on this mushroom. Do you eat it?

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      2. Bankenrepublik‏ @Bankenrepublik 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral problem is that most scientists see no proof for man-made climate change. Your 'experts' are lobbyists & politicians - no scientists.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 29 Mar 2014
        Replying to @Bankenrepublik

        @Bankenrepublik Not sure where you get your data from. 97% of peer-reviewed climate change papers agree it’s man-made http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/16/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Bankenrepublik‏ @Bankenrepublik 29 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral take a look http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/ … or http://www.petitionproject.org/  - important fact: theres no research of origin, just a research of causes

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      2. Marcos Cáceres  🔥‏ @marcosc 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral argument from authority is the weakest form of argument. Nice try tho. (And yes, I'm no climate change skeptic) :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @marcosc

        @marcosc This isn’t argument from authority; we’re talking about consensus in 97% of _peer-reviewed research_ here.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Marcos Cáceres  🔥‏ @marcosc 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I'm not debating the science, just the presentation of the graphic. It pleads to authority ("we trust experts"). I trust method+data.

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      2. Brendan Morley‏ @morb_au 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @glynmoody [Citation Needed]

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @morb_au

        @morb_au @glynmoody http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/16/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Brendan Morley‏ @morb_au 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral thanks.

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      2. Graeme Pietersz ن‏ @gpietersz 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        .@aral @glynmoody 97% of experts said the banks were highly unlikely to ever need bailouts.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Glyn Moody‏Verified account @glynmoody 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @gpietersz

        @gpietersz @aral they weren't scientists - that's the key difference

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Graeme Pietersz ن‏ @gpietersz 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @glynmoody

        @glynmoody @aral they were modelling using quantitative techniques, with better tested models than climate changes ones.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Glyn Moody‏Verified account @glynmoody 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @gpietersz

        @gpietersz @aral better tested? perhaps. more realistic? I doubt it. economics is not realistic...

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Graeme Pietersz ن‏ @gpietersz 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @glynmoody

        @glynmoody @aral Back-tested on relatively more data. Macro-economics may be unrealistic, but financial econ OK, and micro well proven.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Glyn Moody‏Verified account @glynmoody 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @gpietersz

        @gpietersz @aral my point is that we know the laws of physics to incredibly high accuracy; "laws" of economics not so much...

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @glynmoody

        @glynmoody @gpietersz I’ll take the Scientific Method over the predictive models of glorified pyramid schemers any day :)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Graeme Pietersz ن‏ @gpietersz 28 Mar 2014
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @glynmoody exactly my view.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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