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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013

    RT @graemearthur: @aral Google can have my data as long as I get value out of it. Sounds like you deserve to live in a surveillance state.

    4:31 AM - 27 Dec 2013
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      2.  🇳🇱 Marco  🇺🇸 bit.ly/shirtsbymarco  🎸 🎮‏ @TheMarco 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral as soon as governments stop spying on us I'll start worrying about Google.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @TheMarco

        @TheMarco Ad hoc fallacy, my friend; governments would not be able to spy on you to this extent without Google (& Google’s business model)

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      4.  🇳🇱 Marco  🇺🇸 bit.ly/shirtsbymarco  🎸 🎮‏ @TheMarco 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I disagree 100%. Google may make it somewhat easier but they can do it regardless.

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @TheMarco

        @TheMarco Then we have to agree to disagree 100% :)

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      6.  🇳🇱 Marco  🇺🇸 bit.ly/shirtsbymarco  🎸 🎮‏ @TheMarco 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral indeed.My take:focus the anger on government surveillance first. The rest comes later, and naturally too.With G I can at least opt out

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      7. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @TheMarco

        @TheMarco You can opt out until all of G’s competitors also have the same business model (or there are none that can compete)

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      8.  🇳🇱 Marco  🇺🇸 bit.ly/shirtsbymarco  🎸 🎮‏ @TheMarco 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral that's a hypothetical situation that doesn't actually exist.

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      9. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @TheMarco

        @TheMarco Indeed. It's called foresight.

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      2. Der Brüsseler  🇪🇺‏ @DerBruesseler 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral sorry, but there is a huge difference between Google and a surveillance state! // @komiska @graemearthur

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @DerBruesseler

        @DerBruesseler @komiska @graemearthur Really, you don't see the connection? Read some Schneier. Or watch this:http://thelink.is/avoidingdigitalfeudalism …

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      4. Der Brüsseler  🇪🇺‏ @DerBruesseler 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Your argument remind me of those made by our minister of home affairs who defended state surveillance... // @komiska @graemearthur

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @DerBruesseler

        @DerBruesseler @komiska @graemearthur In which case, you have no idea what my argument is.http://thelink.is/avoidingdigitalfeudalism …

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      2. Naval ಠ_ಠ‏ @Navglad 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral google is the road the government surveillance is the data stealing tool booth. You don't destroy the road to fix the toll both.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @Navglad

        @Navglad No, you build many roads instead of a few highways to make it financially infeasible to place a toll booth on each one.

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      4. Naval ಠ_ಠ‏ @Navglad 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral then you are talking about internet backbone not google. All companies employ the same road builders. The service providers.

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      1. Rob Williams‏ @codeslubber 27 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @graemearthur @aral modernized version of 'yeah Mussolini was bad, but the trains ran on time…'

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