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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 13 Dec 2013

    Is it just me or is there something really wrong with this? http://www.bloomworldwide.com/jobs/bloomdesk-skillexchange/ … Sounds like a job disguised as FREE desk space, tea, etc

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      2. Ben‏ @BinaryMoon 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral nothing free about that offer. Definitely looks like a job with no pay to me.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @BinaryMoon

        @BinaryMoon That’s the feeling I get also.

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      2. Ryan Rumsey‏ @ryanrumsey 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral or like spec work.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @ryanrumsey

        @ryanrumsey Definitely has that feel.

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      2. Robert Whitfield‏ @Synthetic_Man 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Certainly seems that way to me. There are some initiatives out there that are just fro free desk space. http://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2013/march/open-studio-clubs-free-desk-here-initiative …

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @Synthetic_Man

        @Synthetic_Man Yeah, I quite like the sound of that initiative, very different (http://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2013/march/open-studio-clubs-free-desk-here-initiative …)

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      4. Robert Whitfield‏ @Synthetic_Man 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I liked how it's a completely non-exploitative initiative, of course it was just a matter of time before someone twisted it to suit

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      2. FJ!!‏ @fj 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral No, this is an unpaid internship disguised as a favour. If anyone here tried that like @BloomWorldwide , I'd shut it down.

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      3. designjuju‏ @designjuju 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @fj

        @fj @aral @BloomWorldwide 'dark pattern' ( no UI) . If I were them I'd remove the word 'free'. its really trade by barter

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      4. FJ!!‏ @fj 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @designjuju

        @designjuju @aral @bloomworldwide Only if you consider a desk to be a perk instead of basic infrastructure to be supplied by any employer.

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      5. designjuju‏ @designjuju 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @fj

        @fj @aral @BloomWorldwide true on the website it reads as a job ad. This is really bad both in intention and execution. they should rethink

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      1. Brendan Hastings‏ @brendannh 13 Dec 2013
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        @aral FREE FREE FREE, but you have to give us a certain amount of hours in exchange for ALL THIS TEA. Sounds like a job...

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      2.  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Josh Green 🇪🇺‏ @pixelpanda 13 Dec 2013
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        @aral that’s disgusting they should be ashamed

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      3. Niki Davies‏ @NikiNom 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @pixelpanda

        @pixelpanda @aral so it's basically employment without contract & you're at their beck & call? Free cofee AND broadband tho! WOW! #notcool

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      1. Richard‏ @a6ruled 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral .. on the 'rental cost' implied by the exchange of course. if you were happy as a freelancer type sounds ok..? @Sheffield_Kevin

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      1. Richard‏ @a6ruled 13 Dec 2013
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        @aral i dunno, i'm on a hair-trigger for outrage these days and i'm not too worried by that. it *could* be bad depending.. @Sheffield_Kevin

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      1. Dave Cartledge‏ @davecartledge 13 Dec 2013
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        @aral I had a similar (but not quite the same) arrangement with a company for a while. It was a poor choice and it didn't end well!

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      1. Michel Jansen‏ @dawuss 13 Dec 2013
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        @aral I guess that all depends on what they expect from "pre agreed number of hours per month for design and development work".

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      1. =?iso-8859-1?b?QXJp624=?= Holthuizen‏ @ArdaXi 13 Dec 2013
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        @aral Isn't a 'desk/skill exchange' just a really nice way to phrase 'unpaid job'?

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      2. Sebastian PR Gingter‏ @PhoenixHawk 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Well, if a designer wants to rent a work place with meeting rooms, he has to pay for it. Its math if hours/rate are fair for the offer

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      3. Sebastian PR Gingter‏ @PhoenixHawk 13 Dec 2013
        Replying to @PhoenixHawk

        @aral "Free" obviously is the wrong word. It's more "rentable for working time instead of cash". Where working time equals cash in fact.

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