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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Apr 2013

    OK, so for those of you who don’t speak, here’s the backstory: loads of conferences ask speakers to speak for free in exchange for a ticket.

    9:24 AM - 2 Apr 2013
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      2. Nougat center‏ @funkatron 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I like OSCON a lot, but I don't understand why they can't pay folks when they charge what they do. I wish they'd explain better.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @funkatron

        @funkatron I feel it may have something to do with the term profit. As in, we want more of it. :)

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      4. Nougat center‏ @funkatron 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral see, I've been told by multiple people whom I tend to believe that they *lose* money on each one. I don't know where the $ is going.

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @funkatron

        @funkatron Creative accounting? Adobe uses the same argument for MAX but it’s really a big marketing event for them.

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      6. Nougat center‏ @funkatron 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral could be. That's disappointing if so.

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      2. Craig Moore‏ @Shoseki 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral Do you spend each talk up to yours sweating in anticipation, the intense buildup, desperately reworking your presentation.. then sleep

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @Shoseki

        @Shoseki I do prepare quite a bit for every talk. And there’s always a little anticipation (just shows that you care) :)

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      2. Ben MacGowan‏ @benmacgowan 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I think it depends though if the event itself is free.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @benmacgowan

        @benmacgowan Event may be free but organisers may still be paid, etc. Free != not for profit. Even in latter, everyone else may be paid.

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      2. Oliver Foggin‏ @oliverfoggin 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral is that the new “Take photos for us for free. It will be good experience for you and it will look good on your CV”

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @oliverfoggin

        @oliverfoggin Basically, yes. Sad thing is we’ve conditioned people so much that some folks thought it was real!

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      2. Brexodus‏ @hyper_linda 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral on the other hand, if I speak for free I actually get to speak… rejection pile getting quite large now :(

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @hyper_linda

        @hyper_linda Their loss, Linda.

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      4. Brexodus‏ @hyper_linda 2 Apr 2013
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I don't know Aral. Some of them I would have really liked to go to like devs love bacon and dare conf.

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      1. D͡a͜n‏ @cham 2 Apr 2013
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        @aral hey, at least they don't make you pay to do it!

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      1. Katarzyna Stawarz‏ @falkowata 2 Apr 2013
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        @aral Although, to be fair, my university paid all that. But still, presenters are expected to get tickets. Even competition finalists.

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      1. Adam Lynch‏ @lynchy010 2 Apr 2013
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        @aral I wonder does anyone go them by their own money. Seems to be only for people working with big companies or the already successful/rich

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      1. Katarzyna Stawarz‏ @falkowata 2 Apr 2013
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        @aral I'm going to a large academic HCI conference soon as my paper was accepted. Had to pay for everything, including the ticket!

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      1. Adam Lynch‏ @lynchy010 2 Apr 2013
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        @aral ridiculous. But prices are way over the top too. I'd love to go to plenty but no way I could afford it. Fluent is $2000 like

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      1.  🇳🇱 Marco  🇺🇸 bit.ly/shirtsbymarco  🎸 🎮‏ @TheMarco 2 Apr 2013
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        @aral I'm ok when they also pay flight, hotel etc. AND it's a conference I actually want to attend myself.

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