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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral 8 Dec 2012

    Starbucks decides to pay £10m tax in UK. What about you guys? Have you decided whether or not to pay tax this year? http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/dec/07/starbucks-tax-offer-angers-critics …

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      2. Joris Kluivers‏ @kluivers 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @aral

        @aral last time I checked it is still perfectly legal to shift around profits within the EU. That is what the system was designed for.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @kluivers

        . @kluivers Yes, the system is broken.

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      4. Joris Kluivers‏ @kluivers 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @aral

        @aral that's why paying 10m for marketing purposes is just silly. Change the system first by leveling tax rates in the EU?

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @kluivers

        @kluivers I think the real issue is that we’ve given too much power to corporations. That’s the heart of it. It’s a new feudalism.

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      2. Seb Lee-Delisle‏Verified account @seb_ly 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @aral

        @aral I thought I'd give it a miss this year.

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @seb_ly

        @seb_ly Yah, one does find it rather blasé, dahling.

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      4. Seb Lee-Delisle‏Verified account @seb_ly 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @aral

        @aral It's just so uncooth.

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @seb_ly

        @seb_ly Indeed, droll even :)

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      2. Anders Ljusberg‏ @CodingInsomnia 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @aral

        @aral That is so nice of them. I think I’ll decide to pay £1.50 for my Venti Latte instead of getting one for free next time!

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @CodingInsomnia

        @CodingInsomnia That’s rather generous of you, I’m sure they’ll appreciate it. I was thinking £1.25 myself but I may volunteer a bit more :)

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      1. Westley Knight‏ @westleyknight 8 Dec 2012
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        @aral I'd heard that Costa Coffee had made roughly the same profits, and they legally paid their tax to the tune of £15 million

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      1. Jack Holmes‏ @imJackH 8 Dec 2012
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        @aral I’m popping into Starbucks today. I don’t want a coffee, just some tax advice.

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      1. MonkeyDog‏ @monkeydogify 8 Dec 2012
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        @aral I'm not going to bother this year. I put the feelers out on twitter and nobody minded, so I'm having a year off.

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      1. Adam Cooke‏ @adamcooke 8 Dec 2012
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        @aral Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to choose not to pay tax. Unlike Starbucks, I legally have to pay it :(

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      1. Luke Redpath‏ @lukeredpath 8 Dec 2012
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        @aral @CraigGrannell BTW, if its voluntary, it’s not really tax is it? It’s a donation.

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      2. Luke Redpath‏ @lukeredpath 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @aral

        @aral @CraigGrannell I’ve decided to pay as little as I’m legally obliged to, just like Starbucks.

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      3. Craig Grannell‏ @CraigGrannell 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @lukeredpath

        @lukeredpath @aral But I doubt there’s a Swiss version of you charging exorbitant mark-up on everything you do.

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      4. Luke Redpath‏ @lukeredpath 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @CraigGrannell

        @CraigGrannell @aral I’m not really sold on the whole “avoiding tax is immoral” argument so Starbucks tax planning doesn’t bother me.

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      5. Craig Grannell‏ @CraigGrannell 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @lukeredpath

        @lukeredpath @aral It pisses me off, but mostly because govt should be closing loopholes/enforcing taxation laws, not whining about morals.

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      6. Luke Redpath‏ @lukeredpath 8 Dec 2012
        Replying to @CraigGrannell

        @CraigGrannell @aral then I think we basically agree. The government can’t complain when companies do this kind of thing…

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