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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    1. zeldman‏Verified account @zeldman Aug 4
      Replying to @aral @rolanddubois

      Dear Aral, Roland said everything I would say. Indeed, I said much the same thing to you over on FB. (Which, by the way, why are you *on* FB? Take a long, hard think about that.) I respect what you fight for, but it’s irrelevant here. This is device-independent inclusive design.

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    2. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Aug 4
      Replying to @zeldman @rolanddubois

      PS. “Why are you on Facebook if you oppose it?” is classic “love it or leave it.” Don't build all the roads and sidewalks with slave labour then turn around and ask people marching against slavery why they use the roads and sidewalks if they oppose how they were built.

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    3. Sedat Kapanoglu‏Verified account @esesci Aug 4
      Replying to @aral @zeldman @rolanddubois

      i honestly fail to understand how an open design would empower facebook’s business specifically in this example. the standard is hardware independent, isn’t it? facebook is at an advantage because they are the first? or they win because they get good PR out of this?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Aug 4
      Replying to @esesci @zeldman @rolanddubois

      And see here for thoughts by someone who is personally affected by the injustice at the heart of this issue:https://octodon.social/@walruslifestyle/100486449145065241 …

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Sedat Kapanoglu‏Verified account @esesci Aug 4
      Replying to @aral @zeldman @rolanddubois

      i understand his frustration at contributing to facebook’s revenue. i just don’t see how facebook plan on monopolizing on this. it’s like criticizing fb for open sourcing their platform code.

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    6. zeldman‏Verified account @zeldman Aug 4
      Replying to @esesci @aral @rolanddubois

      I don’t know that it’s contributing to FB’s revenue, even. Perhaps FB donated the headsets? @rolanddubois would know. The key thing is that this is a device-independent web standard. FB headsets are NOT required.

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    7. zeldman‏Verified account @zeldman Aug 4
      Replying to @zeldman @esesci and

      A good analogy: you build a standards-compliant, accessible website. Some people view it in Chrome. Google makes Chrome and is a huge data miner. Does using Chrome to view a website mean the builder had an evil intention?

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    8. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Aug 4
      Replying to @zeldman @esesci @rolanddubois

      The copy on the site is “we will present an experience designed for the Oculus Go, targeting visually impaired and blind users” So to use your analogy, it reads: “we will present an experience designed for Google Chrome, targeting visually impaired and blind users.”

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    9. zeldman‏Verified account @zeldman Aug 4
      Replying to @aral @esesci @rolanddubois

      I see. @rolanddubois, can you address Aral’s concern?

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    10. Roland Dubois‏ @rolanddubois Aug 5
      Replying to @zeldman @aral @esesci

      We changed the meetup description, hope this stops the hot steam

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      Aral Balkan‏ @aral Aug 5
      Replying to @rolanddubois @zeldman @esesci

      “Hot steam.” Please don’t change it on my account if you don’t see anything wrong with Facebook’s business model and have no problem with being associated with surveillance capitalism.

      12:35 PM - 5 Aug 2018
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        1. zeldman‏Verified account @zeldman Aug 5
          Replying to @aral @rolanddubois @esesci

          Bless your heart.

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