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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jul 29

    Aral Balkan Retweeted Thomas Haeberlen

    The thing that separates humans from slowly boiling frogs is that at least the frogs don't advocate on behalf of the cook. I've zero time & even less interest in debating you if you defend an unethical industry that works against all our interests as individuals, including yours.https://twitter.com/ThomasHaeberlen/status/1023519426161897472 …

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    Thomas Haeberlen @ThomasHaeberlen
    Replying to @aral
    If the software really just guesses age group and gender, there is no tracking of persons across the mall, and the pictures are not stored, is it really that bad? I mean, this is more or less the equivalent of hiring a bunch of students to do a manual count on paper, no?
    3:52 AM - 29 Jul 2018
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      2. Thomas Haeberlen‏ @ThomasHaeberlen Jul 29
        Replying to @aral

        You don't need to discuss with me - sorry for the intrusion. I was just asking because I have to deal with similar stuff at work and I'm trying to get as much input from different viewpoints as possible. Also please note that I was not defending anything 1/2

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      3. Thomas Haeberlen‏ @ThomasHaeberlen Jul 29
        Replying to @ThomasHaeberlen @aral

        I might find my personal opinion closer to your position than you imagine, but I am in a in a position where I have to consider arguments from different sides. So I'll just take the "boiling frog" points and show myself out. 2/2

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      1. Paulo Almeida‏ @pddalm Jul 29
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        Paulo Almeida Retweeted

        I agree, but @ThomasHaeberlen 's point deserves to be addressed. What technology allows is scale and easily bypassing consent. Just read an article on the use of humans posing as AI: https://twitter.com/josiah17/status/1015280740467081216 …

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