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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jul 8

    Aral Balkan Retweeted Dr. Holly Witteman

    Hmm, how about a system that automates this? Email <researcher-name@papers.org> to get a list of their papers and paper-ids emailed to you. Email researcher-name+paper-id@papers.org to get the paper. Please feel free to steal this idea :)https://twitter.com/hwitteman/status/1015049411276300289 …

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    Dr. Holly Witteman @hwitteman
    That $35 that scientific journals charge you to read a paper goes 100% to the publisher, 0% to the authors. If you just email us to ask for our papers, we are allowed to send them to you for free, and we will be genuinely delighted to do so. https://twitter.com/mantia/status/1013559718759956481 …
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      2. Ville M. Vainio‏ @vivainio Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        Or even something super wild like a website

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jul 8
        Replying to @vivainio

        I’m pretty sure hosting the papers on a website would violate their contracts with the publisher-vultures. The reason I suggested what I did was because apparently they’re allowed to email people the paper.

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      4. Ville M. Vainio‏ @vivainio Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        I mean website that catalogued the stuff and automated the email roundtrip

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jul 8
        Replying to @vivainio

        👍

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      2. @acb@mastodon.social‏ @andrewcb Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        If, presumably, there’s a legal reason why they can’t just put their papers on a web server, wouldn’t an email bot fall into the same legal category?

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jul 8
        Replying to @andrewcb

        Depends on the exact wording of the contract and specifically what it disallows. If it’s automated replies, a very simple manual process (click these buttons to approach) can be introduced that would make it legally impossible to separate from “emailing”.

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      4. @acb@mastodon.social‏ @andrewcb Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        Wouldn’t there need to be a human being in the sending process? If so, you may need a rotating cast of volunteers to press the “Send” buttons.

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jul 8
        Replying to @andrewcb

        Again, the researcher themselves can hit a send button (on, for example, a daily list of requests) if that’s what it takes to satisfy the terms of their contract. Without knowing the actual legal wording, anything we theorise about it just that (theory) :)

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      6. @acb@mastodon.social‏ @andrewcb Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        If the researcher is on holiday/on sabbatical/otherwise indisposed, you’d want them to be able to delegate the send-button-pushing as much as is legally possible.

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      1. Martin Hamilton‏Verified account @martin_hamilton Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        Check out @OA_Button for free legal #openaccess to research - https://openaccessbutton.org/ pic.twitter.com/aaPYN6TZQr

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      1. Grant Williamson‏ @ozjimbob Jul 8
        Replying to @aral @andrewcb

        Sites like ResearchGate do more or less automate this already 🙂 As do institutional libraries. If you request one of my papers from my institution’s library, I get an email with a link I can just click “Yes” to, and you’ll get sent the paper.

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      2. markhughes‏ @markhughes Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        If those papers were authored using Dokieli we'd have this on steroids. Even existing papers could readily be found with rudimentary RDF content/tasters (eg of abstracts & authors) and accessed globally from each researcher's own Solid storage. #SemanticWeb #SoLiD #megapub451

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      3. Sarven Capadisli‏ @csarven Jul 8
        Replying to @markhughes @aral

        That's pretty much it re https://dokie.li/  . Self-described human/machine-readable Web resources with sociality. FYN exploration eg. "author made article". "article has part". "part has a particular kind of citation to another part elsewhere on the Web"... #LinkedResearch

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      2. Sarven Capadisli‏ @csarven Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        Automation is as "simple" as exposing an HTTP resource stating: `<author> <made> <article>` where each component is retrievable, human/machine-readable. This is not a hypothesis but a fact. Possible right now.

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      3. Dr. Tim Zijlstra‏ @tzijlstra Jul 8
        Replying to @csarven @aral

        Is the metadata there already?

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      4. ((λ()'Dr.ArneBab))‏ @ArneBab Jul 8
        Replying to @tzijlstra @csarven @aral

        a significant part of the semantic web just reproduces what has been the default manner of operation in scientific publishing for decades → http://www.draketo.de/english/science/challenges-scientific-publishing#the-good … — you’d just need to parse bibtex and other citation formats, which is a solved problem: http://www.scripps.edu/~cdputnam/software/bibutils/ …

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      5. Sarven Capadisli‏ @csarven Jul 8
        Replying to @ArneBab @tzijlstra @aral

        There is more to it than that.. One can have semantic relations between arbitrary units across documents. That'd be hyperlinking with the "why" (reason) .. the type of relationship. eg http://csarven.ca/sense-of-lsd-analysis … has an identifier for its null/alt hypotheses: http://rdf.greggkellogg.net/distiller?command=serialize&url=http:%2F%2Fcsarven.ca%2Fsense-of-lsd-analysis …

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      1. ((λ()'Dr.ArneBab))‏ @ArneBab Jul 8
        Replying to @aral

        that could be made even more generic: researcher-name+doi:10.5194/amt-11-3935-2018@example.org — the DOI is a unique identifier for a scientific publication — ⇒ person+file=urn:sha256:HASH@example.org ; could enable getting any file I’m allowed to send privately.

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      1. Matthew Butler‏ @butlermatthew Jul 8
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        Hmm Hurrah! Love it! ...and how about we all subscribe as equal owners? ...and how about that pays for a curator, hr,d,w,m ‘editions’? ...and how about we commission content? ... and how about the authors become owners too? How about #amutualsociety

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