I didn’t do any of that. I’m a Corbyn supporter in general, apart from his acquiescence over surveillance and his triangulation over Brexit.
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Replying to @PaulbernalUK @aral
And I'm a Corbyn supporter except for a lot of other things as well, but saying "ah we're not allowed to say stuff" is absolutely missing the point. Nobody stopped you having the March, did they? It just didn't seem to convince Corbyn supporters.
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Maybe chanting "Where's Jeremy Corbyn" doesn't have the impact you thought it would?
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Like maybe if historically people have used brexit to attack a guy who is *literally the only game in town for left wing politics right now* you should take some steps to not look like that's what you're doing??
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Replying to @Mc_Heckin_Duff @aral
...and I certainly don’t want to get rid of Corbyn: he is, as you say, the best thing to happen to the left for ages. I just want him to shift his stance.
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His and Labour's stance is that they will vote down the Brexit deal when it comes ('coz at this late stage it cannot pass the 6 tests), and demand that parliament decides what happens next. Personally I think it's genius as it pushes Tories to the wire, Brexit failure is on them.
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Replying to @Yeah_ThatBloke @PaulbernalUK and
Remember he pointedly hasn't ruled out a 2nd ref. But shifting stance at this stage only gives Tories a get of brexitjail free card (which many are trying to give them already) when it finally crashes and burns.
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I think you can disagree over whether labour's "softly softly" is a good strategy but its kind of grating to just presume the people backing it are doing so out of a kind of mindlessness.
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Just a note, Phil (while accepting there might be a longer game here), Labour’s “softly softly” strategy is also what gave us the Investigatory Powers Act (Snooper’s Charter). I, for one, would like to see the case to remain but reform the EU made by Corbyn.
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Replying to @aral @Mc_Heckin_Duff and
But the greater issue here is that it’s clear progressive ideals hit a glass ceiling in hierarchical political structures which, by their topology, favour centralisation of power. My focus from here is clear: to try and create decentralised means of exercising political agency.
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(We cannot effect the global unless we reclaim the local and we cannot escape the local unless we make it global. Topology-wise, we’re talking about an interoperable global mesh that has individual people with political agency at its core. The social contract in the digital age.)
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