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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    1. Paul Bernal‏Verified account @PaulbernalUK Jun 25
      Replying to @Mc_Heckin_Duff @aral

      Rather than petulantly complain about my petulance, why not answer the question? ;)

      1 reply 0 retweets 27 likes
    2. McDuff‏ @Mc_Heckin_Duff Jun 25
      Replying to @PaulbernalUK @aral

      What?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Paul Bernal‏Verified account @PaulbernalUK Jun 25
      Replying to @Mc_Heckin_Duff @aral

      I didn’t do any of that. I’m a Corbyn supporter in general, apart from his acquiescence over surveillance and his triangulation over Brexit.

      1 reply 2 retweets 10 likes
    4. McDuff‏ @Mc_Heckin_Duff Jun 25
      Replying to @PaulbernalUK @aral

      And I'm a Corbyn supporter except for a lot of other things as well, but saying "ah we're not allowed to say stuff" is absolutely missing the point. Nobody stopped you having the March, did they? It just didn't seem to convince Corbyn supporters.

      1 reply 5 retweets 11 likes
    5. McDuff‏ @Mc_Heckin_Duff Jun 25
      Replying to @Mc_Heckin_Duff @PaulbernalUK @aral

      Maybe chanting "Where's Jeremy Corbyn" doesn't have the impact you thought it would?

      3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    6. McDuff‏ @Mc_Heckin_Duff Jun 25
      Replying to @Mc_Heckin_Duff @PaulbernalUK @aral

      Like maybe if historically people have used brexit to attack a guy who is *literally the only game in town for left wing politics right now* you should take some steps to not look like that's what you're doing??

      4 replies 4 retweets 14 likes
    7. Paul Bernal‏Verified account @PaulbernalUK Jun 25
      Replying to @Mc_Heckin_Duff @aral

      ...and I certainly don’t want to get rid of Corbyn: he is, as you say, the best thing to happen to the left for ages. I just want him to shift his stance.

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    8. 𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕓𝕝𝕠𝕜𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕖‏ @Yeah_ThatBloke Jun 25
      Replying to @PaulbernalUK @Mc_Heckin_Duff @aral

      His and Labour's stance is that they will vote down the Brexit deal when it comes ('coz at this late stage it cannot pass the 6 tests), and demand that parliament decides what happens next. Personally I think it's genius as it pushes Tories to the wire, Brexit failure is on them.

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    9. 𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕓𝕝𝕠𝕜𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕖‏ @Yeah_ThatBloke Jun 25
      Replying to @Yeah_ThatBloke @PaulbernalUK and

      Remember he pointedly hasn't ruled out a 2nd ref. But shifting stance at this stage only gives Tories a get of brexitjail free card (which many are trying to give them already) when it finally crashes and burns.

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    10. McDuff‏ @Mc_Heckin_Duff Jun 25
      Replying to @Yeah_ThatBloke @PaulbernalUK @aral

      I think you can disagree over whether labour's "softly softly" is a good strategy but its kind of grating to just presume the people backing it are doing so out of a kind of mindlessness.

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      Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 25
      Replying to @Mc_Heckin_Duff @Yeah_ThatBloke @PaulbernalUK

      Just a note, Phil (while accepting there might be a longer game here), Labour’s “softly softly” strategy is also what gave us the Investigatory Powers Act (Snooper’s Charter). I, for one, would like to see the case to remain but reform the EU made by Corbyn.

      1:38 AM - 25 Jun 2018
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        2. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 25
          Replying to @aral @Mc_Heckin_Duff and

          But the greater issue here is that it’s clear progressive ideals hit a glass ceiling in hierarchical political structures which, by their topology, favour centralisation of power. My focus from here is clear: to try and create decentralised means of exercising political agency.

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        3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 25
          Replying to @aral @Mc_Heckin_Duff and

          (We cannot effect the global unless we reclaim the local and we cannot escape the local unless we make it global. Topology-wise, we’re talking about an interoperable global mesh that has individual people with political agency at its core. The social contract in the digital age.)

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