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Cyborg rights activist (cyborgrights.eu) Designer (not decorator). Ex-Muslim. Atheist. Makes @BetterBlocker. Follow my Mastodon: http://mastodon.ar.al 

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    Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 9

    Umm, @DellIreland, can you please explain to me why the exact same XPS 13 computer costs €630 more when it ships with Ubuntu—a free and open source operating system—than when it does so with Windows 10? (I’m assuming this is a typo & will be fixed, @barton808?) #projectsputnikpic.twitter.com/xkOSNTQ3SP

    Screenshot of Dell Ireland’s XPS 13 page showing that the exact same configuration costs €630 more than the Windows version when it comes with Ubuntu.
    9:21 AM - 9 Jun 2018
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      1. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 9

        (If you scroll down on the page, you’ll see that both are exclusive of VAT and shipping and otherwise identical.) The link: http://www.dell.com/en-ie/work/shop/laptops/xps-13-laptop/spd/xps-13-9370-laptop?view=configurations … Narrow down via “Hard Drive: 1000GB (1TB)” in the filter dropdown to recreate the view in the screenshot.

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      2. Francois Armand‏ @fanf42 Jun 9
        Replying to @aral @DellIreland @barton808

        well, dell site is too much crao, can't find it :/

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      3. Barton George‏ @barton808 Jun 9
        Replying to @fanf42 @aral @DellIreland

        Hi Aral and Francois, the dev edition pricing in Ireland seems a bit high :) I'm guessing it's a glitch, ill ping the team in Europe. Could you find it on the French site? I appreciate you both flagging this!

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      4. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 9
        Replying to @barton808 @fanf42 @DellIreland

        Thanks, Barton, I thought it was a mistake :) It looks like the Ubuntu version is €200.40 cheaper than the Windows version on the French store. (Go to http://dell.fr  and search for XPS 13 to find the listings.)pic.twitter.com/BriKHiBDaE

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 9
        Replying to @aral @barton808 and

        No, wait, sorry, the other way around. Also more expensive (€290.04) on the French store but by less (in my defense, it’s quite late here and I should be asleep and those sites are damn confusing) :)pic.twitter.com/OR62OVOuFr

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      6. Barton George‏ @barton808 Jun 10
        Replying to @aral @fanf42 @DellIreland

        Hey Aral, I just emailed the team in Europe to look into this. Every so often there is a glitch that throws things out of whack which results in pricing errors. Stand by!

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      7. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 10
        Replying to @barton808 @fanf42 @DellIreland

        Thanks, Barton. Appreciate it… here’s to removing another obstacle to its adoption :)

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      8. Barton George‏ @barton808 Jun 10
        Replying to @aral @fanf42 @DellIreland

        I just heard back from our team member in the UK. He checked the Irish site and the said pricing is back to where it should be. Let me know if you find the same thing (fingers crossed :) . If not, pls send a link so i can make sure we are all talking about the same page. thx!

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      9. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 10
        Replying to @barton808 @fanf42 @DellIreland

        Thanks, Barton. Doesn’t look like it though. It seems they removed 4 cents from the price (exc. VAT), which comes out to over 3,000 Euros including VAT. And they also have one, same config, at 2,979 including VAT. Looks like they’re having issues :) http://pilot.search.dell.com/xps%2013 pic.twitter.com/2YyJAXVrYk

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      2. Frank Drebin‏ @frdrebin Jun 9
        Replying to @aral @DellIreland @barton808

        The difference is the revenue that crapware makers give Dell for all the junk that is included in the Windows install. But that was a rhetorical question, right ?

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      3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 9
        Replying to @frdrebin @DellIreland @barton808

        Well, if it’s not a mistake at least we’ll have a Euro amount on exactly how much one computer user’s privacy is worth to @Microsoft (€630) – might be a good baseline figure to use when calculating privacy-related legislation/fines in the future. (CC @PaulNemitz @maxschrems)

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      4. Frank Drebin‏ @frdrebin Jun 9
        Replying to @aral @DellIreland and

        Dell is more on the spot than Microsoft in that scenario. The potential financial return of privacy violations from Microsoft is already factored in the price of the license they charge Dell. The comparison between 2 prices is how much Dell loses as far as 3rd parties revenue.

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      5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 9
        Replying to @frdrebin @DellIreland and

        Well, regardless, if this isn’t a mistake then there’s something very wrong here and I intend to get to the bottom of it. I still feel it’s probably just a typo that someone made while entering the price in their database. Let’s see what they say/do.

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      1. Francois Armand‏ @fanf42 Jun 9
        Replying to @aral @DellIreland @barton808

        in France, sputnik version used to be cheaper than their ms counterparts, let me see now...

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