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Aral Balkan
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I mainly post on my blog at https://ar.al  (RSS: https://ar.al/index.xml ) and interact on my Mastodon https://mastodon.ar.al . Please follow me there.

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    1. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 1

      Aral Balkan Retweeted Dan Gillmor

      If there is, they’re hiding it well. Can we have some examples, apart from possibly Apple? Would you agree that almost all VC/angel investment in Silicon Valley goes into surveillance/tracking/profiling-based startups/companies or companies that will exit to such companies?https://twitter.com/dangillmor/status/1002471735248195588 …

      Aral Balkan added,

      Dan GillmorVerified account @dangillmor
      There's more to Silicon Valley than surveillance (though that's an unfortunately major part and needs reform). Springer is a traditional media company that is engaging in some of the most protectionist behavior I've ever seen. Let's separate the two... https://twitter.com/aral/status/1002453597093875713 …
      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. Dan Gillmor‏Verified account @dangillmor Jun 1
      Replying to @aral

      Don't have data on where investment capital is going, but no doubt a lot is going to this. We do need regulations giving more control of personal data to people. I'd be cautious about assuming Apple's purity in this, especially given their craven actions in China....

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 1
      Replying to @dangillmor

      Aral Balkan Retweeted Aral Balkan

      Oh, Apple’s not pure and no multibillion-dollar corporation is your friend :) (https://twitter.com/aral/status/1002447258699419654 …) But it’s also impossible to ignore that they do have a different business model to Google, Facebook, etc. (https://ar.al/notes/apple-vs-google-on-privacy-a-tale-of-absolute-competitive-advantage/ …).

      Aral Balkan added,

      Aral Balkan @aral
      Replying to @asbjornu @stevendavis and 2 others
      For all intents and purposes, yes, that’s exactly what they’re doing in China (alongside banning VPN apps from the store). https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insight/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-keys-in-china-raising-human-rights-fears-idUSKCN1G8060 … pic.twitter.com/2YnnkRrpbW
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    4. Dan Gillmor‏Verified account @dangillmor Jun 1
      Replying to @aral

      They do, today. They're also collecting a massive amount of data about their users and some future Apple management is going to use it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 1
      Replying to @dangillmor

      Couldn’t agree more. The true alternatives must be ethically-funded (from the commons for the common good), retain control of their social missions (no exits/equity capital), and commit to making decentralised, free/open, interoperable everyday things. https://ar.al/notes/encouraging-individual-sovereignty-and-a-healthy-commons/ …

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    6. Dan Gillmor‏Verified account @dangillmor Jun 1
      Replying to @aral

      What regulation could create an incentive for companies to prefer zero-knowledge data status, or at least prefer to delete rather than keep it once they've done what they need at the outset?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 1
      Replying to @dangillmor

      I don’t believe we can via regulation. We can use regulation to limit the abuses of surveillance capitalists but the way to encourage ethical alternatives is to fund them. That’s what we’re not doing. Even in the EU, our taxes are being spent to fund surveillance capitalism.

      2:25 AM - 1 Jun 2018
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        2. Dan Gillmor‏Verified account @dangillmor Jun 1
          Replying to @aral

          I think we need both. Create incentives that make companies not want the hold the data in the first place, too.

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        3. Aral Balkan‏ @aral Jun 1
          Replying to @dangillmor

          Exactly: regulate the abusers, fund the alternatives. Regulate & Replace. The two go together.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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