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Matt "🔪" Olson
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Matt " 🔪" Olson

@arachnocapital2

Back-end dev mgr and typed FP/math nerd. Cooks, not professionally. Friend to spiders. Rolls dice. A short sturdy creature, fond of drink and industry (he/him)

Greater Vancouver, British Col
Joined October 2018

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    Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018

    Matt " 🔪" Olson Retweeted Tayari Jones

    when recruiters ask "what's your current salary", the answer is "hahahahahaha FUCK YOU" and never talk to that motherfucker againhttps://twitter.com/tayari/status/1068278764990283777 …

    Matt " 🔪" Olson added,

    Tayari Jones @tayari
    What's the best professional advice you've ever recieved?
    10:16 PM - 5 Dec 2018
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    18 replies 74 retweets 498 likes
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      2. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018

        no-one with a shred of ethics will ask you this they might ask you what your expected compensation is, which you should also not answer with a serious number, but they won't try to anchor you to what you're earning rn

        5 replies 6 retweets 43 likes
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      3. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018

        if ur getting recruited it's because ur hot shit, which means ur probably underpaid vs the current market go get that paper bb

        1 reply 1 retweet 59 likes
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      4. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018

        I tweet all this as a mildly desperate hiring manager for gods sake ask for money, nothing's worse than someone quitting for a better offer because some recruiter fuckhead undercut my chance to pay them right

        8 replies 2 retweets 77 likes
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      5. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 6 Dec 2018

        Also, you should read @patio11's post on negotiation (and follow him!) https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ …

        1 reply 5 retweets 49 likes
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      6. End of conversation
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      2. tre murillo‏ @treelzebub 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2

        it's illegal in california 💅

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @treelzebub

        good thing nobody breaks the law

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. tre murillo‏ @treelzebub 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2

        can't even imagine the chaos that would bring

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @treelzebub

        it'd be like someone telling lies on the internet, too horrifying even to conceive of

        2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      6. Michael Doran‏ @sempervigilius 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2 @treelzebub

        I'm a recruiter, don't break the law and I am sorry you've had a poor experience with Recruiters in general.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @sempervigilius @treelzebub

        I know there are good ones out there

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      2. catcoder  😺‏ @crankycatcoder 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2

        I'm not sure that's true. I have people say "Holy shit. There's no way we can match that." And then nobody wastes anybody's time.

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @crankycatcoder

        might happen on occasion, but it's still a question posed from a disingenuous position

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2 @crankycatcoder

        more ethical way of getting to the same place is asking your expectations

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      5. catcoder  😺‏ @crankycatcoder 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2

        Usually my expectation is I'm going to be paid 10-15% more than at current last gig and I've never had any problem saying what those numbers are. "I don't want to say what I'm getting paid now because I'm probably getting screwed" isn't a great look.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @crankycatcoder

        if you know enough about the job market, yeah, it isn't a problem - the issue is, most candidates don't

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Robert P. Thille‏ @rthille 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2 @bitemyapp

        1 miiiilllliiiioooonnnnn dollars

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 5 Dec 2018
        Replying to @rthille @bitemyapp

        don't undersell urself m8 "less than I should be earning in this market, or I wouldn't be willing to talk" also jfc make them buy you coffee, if not lunch and booze they expense that shit

        1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      4. Spencer Allen‏ @Spencer_Allen 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @arachnocapital2 @rthille @bitemyapp

        1) sure. 2) Oversimplified much? 90% of job seekers I know aren't looking *because* of their salary. 3) yeah if a recruiter isn't willing to meet you IRL *and* pick up *any* tab, they're not cognizant of their position.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Matt " 🔪" Olson‏ @arachnocapital2 6 Dec 2018
        Replying to @Spencer_Allen @rthille @bitemyapp

        I don't think job-seekers' actual intentions (probably quite complex and nuanced, as you say) are relevant when responding to recruiters asking shitty questions from a disingenuous foundation

        0 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
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