Isn't that a little simplistic? @aoscott @selfstyledsiren Distorting history can have grave real world effects.
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@RonRosenbaum1@aoscott@selfstyledsiren E.g, half the US believes Stone's JFK, making America stupider, conspiracy-minded & ungovernable. -
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@timappelo@RonRosenbaum1@selfstyledsiren please cite sources for both statistical and causal claims in that tweet. thx -
@aoscott@timappelo@selfstyledsiren Tony u haven't answered my q abt."Birth of a Nation"'s racist narrative.OK bec just historical fiction? -
@RonRosenbaum1@timappelo@selfstyledsiren did I say that historical fictions could not be judged on moral, artistic or political grounds? -
@aoscott@timappelo@selfstyledsiren But not judged on historical grounds? -
@RonRosenbaum1@timappelo@selfstyledsiren what do you mean by "historical grounds?" fact-checking? -
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@aoscott@timappelo@selfstyledsiren No because it promulgated the lie that Reconstruction was so oppressive it justified the Klan.A lie+ - Show more
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Where was the FORREST GUMP rage?! “
@aoscott: Apropos of nothing in particular: FEATURE FILMS ARE NOT HISTORY. THEY ARE HISTORICAL FICTION.” -
@NotDBordwell@aoscott Extreme example: what if a narrative feature indulged in Holocaust denial? Would we not condemn it? -
@nathanmwilliams@NotDBordwell Inglourious Basterds? Not quite "denial" in the sense you mean, but...(and some did/do condemn). -
@aoscott@NotDBordwell So much depends on how filmmaker frames their story. Drama with historical backdrop vs. purported truth.
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THANK YOU, this is SO accurate and important to remember. UGH.
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@ilanaslightly@aoscott Why do you say it's accurate? Books are called fiction or non-fiction? Why are all feature films fiction? -
@CharmianNeary@aoscott I don't think you can ever render something in a biopic as 100% true to life. Non-fiction movies are documentaries.
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@aoscott When a movie gets almost everything right about history except one critical element that’s way off...worth pointing to discrepancy? -
@ChrisWillman@aoscott I don't think anyone has said it doesn't matter. Problem is acting as if it's the only thing that matters. -
@SamuelAAdams@aoscott Well, lots of people have said it doesn’t matter. I have people saying it doesn’t on my comment threads all day long. -
@ChrisWillman@aoscott I meant more in the vein of people making actual arguments, but point taken.
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@aoscott Can you tattoo that on the head of all New York Times political columnists? Thanking you in advance.
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