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film critic, NY Times; author of BETTER LIVING THROUGH CRITICISM from @penguinpress

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    32 across Verified account ‏@aoscott 17 Jan 2015

    Just apropos of nothing in particular: FEATURE FILMS ARE NOT HISTORY. THEY ARE HISTORICAL FICTION.

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      1. Ron Rosenbaum ‏@RonRosenbaum1 17 Jan 2015

        Isn't that a little simplistic? @aoscott @selfstyledsiren Distorting history can have grave real world effects.

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      2. timappelo ‏@timappelo 18 Jan 2015

        @RonRosenbaum1 @aoscott @selfstyledsiren E.g, half the US believes Stone's JFK, making America stupider, conspiracy-minded & ungovernable.

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      3. 32 across ‏@aoscott 18 Jan 2015

        .@timappelo @RonRosenbaum1 @selfstyledsiren please cite sources for both statistical and causal claims in that tweet. thx

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      4. Ron Rosenbaum ‏@RonRosenbaum1 18 Jan 2015

        @aoscott @timappelo @selfstyledsiren Tony u haven't answered my q abt."Birth of a Nation"'s racist narrative.OK bec just historical fiction?

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      5. 32 across ‏@aoscott 18 Jan 2015

        @RonRosenbaum1 @timappelo @selfstyledsiren did I say that historical fictions could not be judged on moral, artistic or political grounds?

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      6. Ron Rosenbaum ‏@RonRosenbaum1 18 Jan 2015

        @aoscott @timappelo @selfstyledsiren But not judged on historical grounds?

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      7. 32 across ‏@aoscott 18 Jan 2015

        @RonRosenbaum1 @timappelo @selfstyledsiren what do you mean by "historical grounds?" fact-checking?

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      8. Ron Rosenbaum ‏@RonRosenbaum1 18 Jan 2015

        1 @aoscott @timappelo @selfstyledsiren No because it promulgated the lie that Reconstruction was so oppressive it justified the Klan.A lie+

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      1. Not David Bordwell ‏@NotDBordwell 17 Jan 2015

        Where was the FORREST GUMP rage?! “@aoscott: Apropos of nothing in particular: FEATURE FILMS ARE NOT HISTORY. THEY ARE HISTORICAL FICTION.”

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      2. Nathan Williams ‏@nathanmwilliams 17 Jan 2015

        @NotDBordwell @aoscott Extreme example: what if a narrative feature indulged in Holocaust denial? Would we not condemn it?

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      3. 32 across ‏@aoscott 17 Jan 2015

        @nathanmwilliams @NotDBordwell Inglourious Basterds? Not quite "denial" in the sense you mean, but...(and some did/do condemn).

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      4. Nathan Williams ‏@nathanmwilliams 17 Jan 2015

        @aoscott @NotDBordwell So much depends on how filmmaker frames their story. Drama with historical backdrop vs. purported truth.

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      1. Ilana Masad ‏@ilanaslightly 17 Jan 2015

        THANK YOU, this is SO accurate and important to remember. UGH. @aoscott

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      2. Charmian Neary ‏@CharmianNeary 17 Jan 2015

        @ilanaslightly @aoscott Why do you say it's accurate? Books are called fiction or non-fiction? Why are all feature films fiction?

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      3. Ilana Masad ‏@ilanaslightly 17 Jan 2015

        @CharmianNeary @aoscott I don't think you can ever render something in a biopic as 100% true to life. Non-fiction movies are documentaries.

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      1. Chris Willman ‏@ChrisWillman 18 Jan 2015

        @aoscott When a movie gets almost everything right about history except one critical element that’s way off...worth pointing to discrepancy?

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      2. Sam Adams ‏@SamuelAAdams 18 Jan 2015

        @ChrisWillman @aoscott I don't think anyone has said it doesn't matter. Problem is acting as if it's the only thing that matters.

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      3. Chris Willman ‏@ChrisWillman 18 Jan 2015

        @SamuelAAdams @aoscott Well, lots of people have said it doesn’t matter. I have people saying it doesn’t on my comment threads all day long.

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      4. Sam Adams ‏@SamuelAAdams 18 Jan 2015

        @ChrisWillman @aoscott I meant more in the vein of people making actual arguments, but point taken.

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    1. Jeet Heer ‏@HeerJeet 17 Jan 2015

      @aoscott Can you tattoo that on the head of all New York Times political columnists? Thanking you in advance.

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