I'm thinking of religion vs. atheism these days (long story), and I found this an interesting dialogue between the patron saint of New Atheism and the founder of TED (who apparently was raised evangelical).https://samharris.org/podcasts/the-ted-interview/ …
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This is very Talebian. Out of interest, what is your beef with him?
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Eh, he gets quantitative finance very wrong IMO. Though I like his more recent stuff.
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Not all of us guy. Perhaps you should talk to more of them rather than generalize.
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Note to self: you must speak to *every* follower of every viewpoint before coming to any conclusion, rather than just the vocal and emblematic ones. LMK when you figure out 2 billion Catholics.
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I wouldn't generalize about 2 billion Catholics either.

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Spolier: atheists, etc all have the same traits as the religious do. Humans. They create the same systems, "sin" etc that religion does. They have their snake-handlers, faith healers, & televangelist, etc. Nothing is fucking new.
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You should check out the British philosopher John N Gray if you havent. He covered this area extensively and arrived to some similar conclusions about secular delusions and faiths.
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One interesting thing i learnt is new atheism is in a sense a variant of protestant christianity with its obsession about epistemic belief.
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was think about something like this recently: isnt faith(the conviction of something unproven or unprovable) a necessity, if we perceive reality through (1) our nervous system which evolved for specific tasks (2) concepts that are rooted in assertions.
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Some of them are embarrassingly literal. Terry Eagleton's "Culture and the Death of God" covers this very well. It's the sentiment that religion is the result of a failure of intellect, which is - paradoxically - a failure of intellect itself.
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This is an odd comparison. Money is palpably real, God isn't.
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